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OK, so we've all been talking about food, health, weight loss . . . and then I ran across Dressing Your Truth.
I signed up for the free little video course and then forgot about it, until all the video links had piled up in my spam folder. The other night I ran across them again and watched them.
It didn't take me five minutes to figure out my own "energy type," because I am pretty extremely what I am. But as a person who has often hated her own looks, thought she had the "wrong" kind of personality (because it wasn't either cute and bubbly OR boldly go-getter-ish), and had no clue how to dress, I found it really fun, helpful, and eye-opening. Yes, I want to eat healthily, find and maintain a healthy weight, and so on -- but I also want to be grateful to God for what I am right now, instead of thinking that someday I'll be the person I want to be, if only I can figure out the right things to do to change myself into that person, which I think is exactly what I've thought all my life. Time to get over it.
I don't know whether it's just that it's January or what (in February I'll be having the homeschool-curriculum version of this same existential crisis), but it just somehow feels like time to sort *myself* out, so that I don't have to think about myself so much. Does that even make sense? Or maybe it's that I'll be 50 this year, and I don't want to go through life thinking, "Well, in X years I'll probably be dead, so I'll just wear the yoga pants . . . "
Anyway, I'm not going to pay money for the course, but I've been spending some time visiting her blog and Pinterest boards, which are all fun and helpful.
What's fairly interesting to me is that my closet already contains a lot of items that fit my type, Type 2 (fluid, soft, comfortable, subtle) . . . now I know why I gravitate toward certain colors, textures, and lines! It's funny, too, that when I look at my house, I see . . . soft stone-colored or cream walls, soft grayed colors, a lot of flowing lines . . . Amid all the hand-me-down furniture and rugs, I can see this theme, even though I certainly didn't plan it, or even choose much of what's in my house. Did I mention that it didn't take me five minutes to figure out my profile?
So I don't know if anyone else has seen this or is interested, but I've found it to be a fun kind of self-analysis. I think the family who do this are probably LDS/Mormon -- they're from Lehi, UT, so it's a fair guess -- and there's some vaguely New-Agey language in some of the videos. But the whole thing is very positive about women (and men) and their different kinds of energy, body type, and beauty -- and very helpful in pointing a clueless person like me toward the right things in my own closet, let alone in a store.
So, I'm Type 2, in spades. Anyone else want to play? (and yes, 30 years ago when "Color Me Beautiful" was all the rage, I was totally absorbed by that, too).
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OK, so we've all been talking about food, health, weight loss . . . and then I ran across Dressing Your Truth...
I don't know whether it's just that it's January or what (in February I'll be having the homeschool-curriculum version of this same existential crisis), but it just somehow feels like time to sort *myself* out, so that I don't have to think about myself so much. Does that even make sense? |
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I am cracking up because I could have written so many things in this post.
Just came back from a run because THIS is the year I am going to get in shape and lose weight...or should I just give up and embrace the fact that I'm over 40?? And yes, in a month or two I'll be happy busily planning next year's curriculum and that'll take my mind off of it.
And I always say to myself, I wouldn't have to think about myself so much if I weren't so...well...imperfect.
I'll have to take some time to look through this more later.
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Interesting, Sally. I'm intrigued. So there isn't an assessment to take...you can figure it out from watching the videos?
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That's the idea. It's all promo for an expensive course, but they give you a lot of help to figure out what you are. There's a lot more on the blog, too -- lots of before/after makeover features, more videos, etc. So you do a lot of thinking about what applies to you -- your face shape and body type as well as elements of your personality. It's interesting how things coalesce. A lot of people are probably more eclectic in orientation than I am, but even so, the idea is that one kind of "energy" is going to be dominant.
My *husband* actually wants to watch the videos with me. He's always been interested in personality-type assessments -- I have some ideas about what type he is in this paradigm, and it'll be interesting to see what he thinks.
Monica -- you know, I was thinking after I wrote this about how self-consciousness is the opposite of confidence. If I feel good about myself, I tend not to think about myself nearly as much as when I feel awkward or badly dressed or unattractive. I don't want to be vain (though of course I am!), but I find that if I feel put-together and at home in my appearance, then I can just shrug myself off and concentrate my energy in more generous and outward ways. There's a kind of "vanity" -- ie just taking care with my appearance -- that has the paradoxical effect of making my spirit more modest, less caught up in self.
I do like that their overall orientation is pretty modest, in terms of clothing. "Beautiful" doesn't end up meaning "more skin showing." The women -- this 50-something woman and her 20-something daughter are the main "personalities" -- are very genuine, classy, and appealing. The mother has about 5 grown children, and she talks a lot about them and their various personalities in a way really radiates her love for them.
Anyway, I would never have thought that this kind of thing would be "my thing," but it sure is giving me something fun to do and think about -- which is not something I would have thought I'd say about anything to do with my appearance!
I'll be curious to know what other people think.
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I'm on day 2 of the videos. It's a pain that I have to wait a whole day for the next installment.
I agree with the New Age language--it kind of puts me off. I can't figure out what style I am yet. It's not as easy for me.
I loved Color Me Beautiful. I am a winter who wears classic styling. I'm not hung up on that, but I still finds it fits me.
I'm not impressed with all the makeovers. The hair is too much and a lot of accessories and busyness. All the styles seem to fit one mold, although I'm having a hard time pinpointing a description. But it's all stuff I would never wear.
And unlike Color Me Beautiful, some of the colors don't match the complexions....so I do t think they are great makeovers.
I'm not uncomfortable with my body, I just have particular tastes and fitting problems (and budget constraints) that make it harder to find the clothes I want. But I have never let fashion dictate to me what yo wear.
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I haven't paid as much attention to the types besides 2. To my mind, the Type 1 and 3 makeovers are the less successful ones, because they do tend to be either too cutesy or too busy, or the hair is just too weird -- though I can see some of those styles feeling very freeing to women who had tried to look more traditionally "feminine" and felt at odds with themselves. I would never wear Carol Tuttle's hairstyle or clothes, but the contrast between the old picture she shows, of herself with a big poufy perm, and her appearance today, is striking. She's not a dainty, "pretty," typically feminine woman -- it's a very different kind of beauty, and she's figured out how to dress for it.
The Type 4 ones seem to come off better -- the women who can wear those clear colors and sharp contrasts really seem to come to life when they're wearing them.
Meanwhile, there are definitely things in the Type 2 category that are too ruffly for me, though it's kind of a revelation that I can look good in those styles. I had always thought of myself as more tomboyish, though I'm really not boyish at all -- I'd still say I'm natural and outdoorsy. And I do look pretty good in a brighter blue than seems to show up in that palette.
Yes, the New-Agey stuff gets more pronounced on her blog, particularly when she gets into the areas of health and money. There's a lot of energy-chakra stuff. I did a good bit of reading yesterday, mostly looking for more makeover pictures, and some of that really turned me off. I think I'll stick to personality, body type, and beauty, because I do find that area helpful. As my husband said, on watching the first couple of videos with me, "I don't buy the metaphysics, but the psychology is really interesting."
I have been struggling for years with how to look -- how to be comfortable with myself and my appearance as a woman in her 50th year. Once I can't get away with just being young -- who am I, really? And what do I put on my body, so I can leave the house without looking either frumpy or ridiculous? And what do I do with my hair?? Can I really get away with not having a short Mom haircut at my age, and not look all frumped out?
I always liked Color Me Beautiful, too, but beyond telling me what colors I did and didn't look good in (which holds true for the most part in DYT, too, though I agree that sometimes it doesn't seem to work), it didn't really help me choose what to wear, or understand why some clothes felt right and some didn't -- as I would too often conclude after I'd bought and worn them and it was too late to get my money back. I didn't really see myself as fitting any of the "styles" they proposed -- I wasn't really fluffily romantic, OR totally sporty, OR at all "dramatic." Nothing really felt like me. I don't pay that much attention to fashion trends, either, because they mostly just seem made for 19-year-old stick insects, but I'm not "classic" or traditional enough in my taste to feel at all happy in Lands End, for example. I'm a little too hippy-chicky for that, though I'm also not really at home in the world of tie-dye.
Anyway, finding a paradigm that seems to click with whom I am, and some clothing parameters to accompany it, just feels huge to me. It's like another piece of the "Love Languages" puzzle or something. I've always hated shopping, because it seemed as though I was forever doomed to come out with things that seemed like a good idea at the time, but wound up being nothing I really wanted to wear. Now, next time I go to Goodwill, I have ideas!
OK, kids are up. Time to feed them and get school rolling.
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I'm enjoying the videos, but I'm not seeing a clear cut type for me. That's not a reflection of Tuttle though.
In all my personality tests and quizzes, I find I have a tendency to fit two niches pretty evenly, so it makes it hard for me to say " I'm this one." The descriptions of 3 and 4 personality really fit me, but I know that type 4 is more my style.
Jen at Conversion Diary just mentioned another personality test similar to Myers Briggs, and so this has been on my mind. My temperaments are so even in melancholic choleric, Myers Briggs I can't firmly get a strong answer, as many questions there aren't clear winners. And as I was thinking about this yesterday and blaming myself, here again is another approach where I fit evenly into two.
I know I'm not indecisive, and I'm pretty sure I don't hide behind a false personality. Maybe there is a possibility that I could be a split personality?
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That's really interesting, that you get that result consistently across all kinds of assessments. Maybe it just goes to show that assessments are, at the end of the day, both limited and limiting! Human nature is so complex, and that's always miraculous to contemplate.
The DYT people do spend a lot of time on the idea that you ARE DEFINITELY one dominant thing, though you have elements of all four types and can have a strong secondary. That's interesting insofar as it does prompt you to look beyond whatever layers of socialization you've accrued in your life experience to see what's there at the bottom. I say it's *interesting* -- I definitely don't think that a tool like this is the last word in defining our nature! And I wouldn't see it as a hard-and-fast set of rules, either, just a way of thinking beyond accustomed parameters related to style. I know I'm not rushing out to buy new clothes -- but I do have clearer ideas about what to look for when I do. And I'm looking at what's already in my closet with new eyes.
The whole thing has been interesting and, frankly, kind of liberating to me because I've spent so much time around women with definite ideas about what a woman's personality should or should not be. My mother, who is very active and driven -- she's a total do-er, can't bear to just sit around, is probably driven insane by the quietness of our small town when she visits ("What is there to do? What do you want to do now? 'Nothing' is not a valid answer . . . " ) -- views what looks to her like passivity as a fault. Was that a convoluted sentence? Yeah, probably . . . What I mean is that she would look at another woman's contemplativeness, or receptivity, or indecision, or need to think things through rather than acting quickly, and be impatient with that as a weakness, or even a moral failing (ask me how I know . . . ).
I love her, and we cautiously enjoy each other, but this is a pretty true insight, I think, and it does help me to think more clearly about conflicts we've had over the years. It also makes me think of a college roommate I had who was driven crazy by me in a similar way, and used to say, "Now the kind of person I *like* does X, Y, or Z . . . " At the time, all I thought was, "Oh, I'm the wrong kind of person. What is wrong with me? How do I fix myself so I can be the right kind of person?" The realization that I've gone through life thinking I was the wrong kind of person who just had to be fixed really does explain my confusion even over something so relatively trivial as clothes . . .
But that's all a tangent! Just having those flowing thoughts here. Jenn, I was thinking about you over the weekend, though, and thinking how at least in your online persona, I see a lot of serene stillness and clarity -- it seems to me, knowing you just through this medium, that you really have the gift of seeing through to the heart of things in a calm, rational, confident way. That's something that I, as a natural ditherer (or "empathetic-seer-of-both-sides-of-every-situation"), really appreciate. Of course, I don't know anything about your voice, movement, body language, or other elements of your physical presence, and even if I did, I wouldn't presume to peg anyone else in a "type!" Or to say, "This now means that you must wear a zebra-stripe scarf." But in your written voice, that element of calm clarity really comes across very strongly, and it does seem as though the outfit you're wearing in your profile picture, for example, with the clear red and your high-contrast coloring, echoes that very nicely.
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I have a similar problem, I usually just quit most personality assessments after a few questions because I can't pick a "best" answer for any of them. Maybe I'm just indecisive? I don't know. I don't even try to take those tests any more!
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I know what you mean. In those "Which Downton Abbey Character Are You?" quizzes, which I seem incapable of not taking, I often find myself picking the least-wrong answer, because the really right answer isn't even among the choices. So I end up being Tom Branson, and going, "Wuh? Really?"
That was one thing I liked about this assessment process, though -- again, not that I see it as all-defining, or as a total life system, or anything like that. But I liked that it uses imagery, especially from nature, as a way of prompting you to consider what resonates with you, and what that might mean. It looks a lot at line and pattern and process in a way that's not asking you to choose whether you'd prefer an Amazon River cruise or a trip to Neptune. One thing that pointed me toward thinking of myself as a particular type was that of all the images, I most wanted to *be* in the photos associated with that type: beside rivers (all my fantasy homes are on water, preferably rivers), in quiet pastures at dusk with mist rising from trees, in cottage-type gardens with soft waves of color and pattern.
All of that just made me go, "Yes!" And it wasn't that I didn't like the other images. I've lived in Utah and love the harsh, angular desert landscape, for example, that's part of the Type 3 imagery. But loving its beauty somehow isn't quite the same as the intuitive response I had to the liquid, subtle, twilit images that went with the Type 2.
Looking at my responses to these things was a lot more illuminating than reflecting on my often-incomplete responses on a questionnaire.
An aside -- I've noticed all over again how full my poems are -- years and years' worth of poems -- of rain, standing water, subtle changes of light as at twilight or in the calm before a storm. Lots and lots of gray. Those images turn up over and over and over again in my writing. I already knew that . . . but now I think, "Oh, well, yeah, *of course* those are my obsessions . . . "
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I think that you are a very decisive person when it comes to your tastes. You strike me as someone who knows what you like. So, perhaps that is why the labels don't appeal? So many of these quizes and labels are geared toward those of us still trying to figure out who we are 
When it comes to any of these personality type tools, I try to remember how Christ was seen to embody the best of all four of the classical temperaments.
I can see how I took a Meyers Briggs when I was 19 and when I look at the questions now, my answers would change, so I just sort of stick with the original one I took because I think it is probably more accurate to what I am naturally. Questions about whether I would choose to stay home or go out are pretty different if it involves whether the work in getting 5 other bodies out the door with me makes "it" worthwhile. They say that IQ tests are more accurate when taken by a younger child, and I wonder if the same isn't of personality sorters. As we get older, our minds and tastes and such become so jumbled
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Tracy, I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one. It's not that I'm sanguine and can't decide, like the DYT videos talk about Type I, who thinks they might be all 4 types. I'm not that kind of indecisive personality. But I do see that I have two dominant traits, instead of 1. I know that everyone has a little of all types, I understand that. But I just can't find my niche.
And Sally, I was thinking about interactions with other people and how it's hard for me being with Type 1 and Type 3. The constant movement is hard. Type 3 seems more like a pure choleric or choleric/sanguine temperament, getting things done, taking charge, but not caring about the details. To not get it done well and get the details really bothers me!
And Type 1 -- the ideas people. I clashed with a guy on our WYD pilgrimage to Poland back in 1991. He was constantly coming up with ideas...it was a barrage of ideas. It was bothering me because many were so impractical, and he never tried to follow through. I wanted to look over one idea at a time, discuss the practicalities and details, plan and execute. If people jumped on his idea, it didn't matter. He was on to the next idea.
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But that's all a tangent! Just having those flowing thoughts here. Jenn, I was thinking about you over the weekend, though, and thinking how at least in your online persona, I see a lot of serene stillness and clarity -- it seems to me, knowing you just through this medium, that you really have the gift of seeing through to the heart of things in a calm, rational, confident way. That's something that I, as a natural ditherer (or "empathetic-seer-of-both-sides-of-every-situation"), really appreciate. Of course, I don't know anything about your voice, movement, body language, or other elements of your physical presence, and even if I did, I wouldn't presume to peg anyone else in a "type!" Or to say, "This now means that you must wear a zebra-stripe scarf." But in your written voice, that element of calm clarity really comes across very strongly, and it does seem as though the outfit you're wearing in your profile picture, for example, with the clear red and your high-contrast coloring, echoes that very nicely.
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Well, that's very complimentary, but that's half me. I'm a very empathetic person, also (probably not online). I examine things from all sides, and while I'm the critical type 4 and see a black and white and always looking for improvement, my head is always going on making connections. I never can read or hear things without making connections to other things. The CM approach to allowing the child to read and make those personal connections and become their own resonates with me most because I'm doing that all the time!
The other Type 3 descriptions of seeking comfort for myself and others is so true for me. I'm guessing that Type 3 might sometimes be labeled with sensory issues.
See, I'm connecting again. I'm listening to the DYT and connecting with all previous types and tests.
The physical aspects of Type 3 don't really fit me, though, so then I am left with the big questions again.
But I don't want to make this an "about me", just going on a tangent of thoughts. My library doesn't carry her books, which is unfortunate, because I would enjoy to read (without paying) and seeing more.
A friend of mine and I were recently discussing about temperaments. I do find while finding and understanding your personality, temperament, body type and style is really helpful, that's the key word. It's a help. No one can be exactly pegged, as everyone is unique. We all have some similar shared traits, and discovering them does help us with self-knowledge. My husband is reading St. John of the Cross right now and was marveling how something written in the 16th century is still so applicable to our spiritual lives today.
But we are not to put ourselves into a box and let that limit us.
With grace we are supposed to stretch ourselves and try other things. Sometimes God might will us to lead something, even though we don't have the best skills to do it. A type 3 might be better at the job, but if we are called, God wants to use our skills to the best ability. We can't sit back and not try. Or worse yet, dive in, but keep doing a cruddy job and blaming our temperament and not taking responsibility for our actions.
It reminds me of something I read by Bishop Sheen. He was comparing the difference between going to confession and going to a psychiatrist. In confession, we admit our weaknesses, accuse ourselves our faults. We are asking for grace to pick up and work on these areas. We do not revel in our weakness, but work to change ourselves.
A psychiatrist labels the patient with different problems, and the patient comes out as charged. It becomes a crutch, a label. He can't do something because of this label. He's not going to try and change, but actually revel in the label.
I'm not saying that it's bad to do this. The positive aspects are so wonderful.
I agree with you, Sally. Those images for Type 3 were where I wanted to be, like Fields of lavender and river banks...but on the other hand, I'm not a doodler. I'm an editor. 
ETA: I have to admit the description of Type 4 in the video 5 does come really close to what I've been all my life. Perhaps it is the dominant, with a heavy does of Type 3.
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I think that you are a very decisive person when it comes to your tastes. You strike me as someone who knows what you like. So, perhaps that is why the labels don't appeal? So many of these quizes and labels are geared toward those of us still trying to figure out who we are
When it comes to any of these personality type tools, I try to remember how Christ was seen to embody the best of all four of the classical temperaments.
I can see how I took a Meyers Briggs when I was 19 and when I look at the questions now, my answers would change, so I just sort of stick with the original one I took because I think it is probably more accurate to what I am naturally. Questions about whether I would choose to stay home or go out are pretty different if it involves whether the work in getting 5 other bodies out the door with me makes "it" worthwhile. They say that IQ tests are more accurate when taken by a younger child, and I wonder if the same isn't of personality sorters. As we get older, our minds and tastes and such become so jumbled |
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Good points, Lindsay. They have often said that Christ was the embodiment of all temperaments. It is also said that as a saint worked on his faults, that one could no longer recognize his innate tendencies, like hot temper.
But that's from the outside. I know from the inside don't we have knee jerk reactions to things? That's how I try to answer the quiz. Now I know that at some points of my age I didn't want to be like my mother who is syrupy sweet melancholic, but more like my father who is choleric. Then my dad left us for a while, so then there's that influence.
I have often said I have dualing melancholic/choleric temperaments.
I'm definitely a blunt speaking person. They used to tease me about having foot in mouth disease. And everyone knows what I am thinking or feeling because it's all over my face. And so when DYT was describing Type 4 in Video 5 I had to laugh out loud.
But Sally, I never wear zebra.
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Ha, no, somehow I didn't think you did wear zebra! And yes, I totally see the empathetic side of you, too. You are very much that way online as well. A woman of many strengths!
And no, despite going on about myself at great length, I don't want this to be all about me, either. I just find the process really interesting. I also completely agree with you that these assessment things are helps, not complete definitions of the person, made in the image of God.
Maybe that's what's troubling about looking at too many of those makeovers -- after a while they seem kind of pigeonholing, like, "Oh, look, there's another Type 3 wearing orange and leopardskin print." Or, as much as I really love the Type 2 stuff, after a while it's like, "Enter the next Curly Scarf Woman!"
So I think if you took all this too seriously and made it your life system, it would be reductive of you as a person -- and a pretty poor religion substitute.
I think where it is helpful is to give us insight into what our gifts might be, so that we can see better how to use them -- and also how we might sometimes stretch ourselves beyond our natural comfort zones, when that's required. If I'm more contemplatively inclined, for example, having that insight might mean that I stop beating myself up for not being more of an activist -- but that doesn't mean that I'm then dispensed to do nothing about anything ever. Still, I think of Aquinas' "grace builds on nature," and maybe knowing more about my own nature helps me to cooperate more fully with that grace, as it's seeking to work on me uniquely, to make me *more* the particular image of God that I am meant to be.
That's an excellent point about confession as opposed to psychiatry! And I do think that that's a loss to these very well-intentioned women -- that in all the self-affirmation, there's no mechanism for dealing with the reality that we sin and fall short. In their system, there's positive and negative thinking, or the dichotomy of either loving or hating yourself. What's missing is how to confront that in yourself which really can't be affirmed away, and how to let God heal it.
What they have to say is interesting and helpful insofar as it deals with the realm of the material -- the body, especially -- but they're really not addressing the spiritual self. I'm not actually sure how Mormons -- which I'm pretty sure is their background -- conceive of the soul. At any rate, beyond the level of self-esteem, they're really not even going there, which is important to remember. The psychiatrist or therapist may offer needed help, and a person may come out of his office healed of something very real and thus more ready to live happily and successfully. This is on the same level, really, as going to the doctor and getting an antibiotic to knock out your strep -- it's healing on a purely material plane. The patient feels great, and that's a huge relief, but he still has to go to confession for the whole person, body and soul, to be healed.
Well, this is really an interesting conversation. I almost didn't post it to begin with, because I thought it seemed kind of trivial. People have all these intense things going on in their lives, and I want to talk about "Energy Me Beautiful?" I'm glad it's going in all these different directions and developing all these layers.
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I haven't watched all the videos, but from what you describe, it would be fascinating to see them show pictures of the types from other fashion eras and what it would have looked like when, say, scarves weren't "in." Kwim?
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CrunchyMom wrote:
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That is brilliant! I'd love to see them in the decades of 30s, 40s and 50s.
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Oh, that would be fun! On the DYT Type 2 Pinterest board, there are a couple of 1920s evening gowns. I wouldn't really have pictured the 20s as a very Type-2-ish era -- the whole Flapper thing, and jazz, seem much more either Type-1 or Type 3. I haven't looked on the other types' boards to see whether they have any vintage styles pinned.
I would think a Type 4 would have looked right at home in the 40s. A Type 2 might have looked and felt constrained or too hippy (as in big hips, not as in flower-childish) in those more structured dresses and sculptural hairstyles -- long, but with very sleek, set curls. The angular, "git 'er done" Type 3 might fit well here, as well (I went back and added that in, because I realized I'd really given 3 the short end of the stick here!).
A Type 1 might have looked and felt very herself in the flippy wide-skirted dresses and short hair of the early 50s, when the feminine ideal was lighter, cuter -- even sillier, in that "don't bother your little head" kind of way. A Type 1 would look adorable in the predominant style of that day, while other types would look too heavy, or angular, or even masculine. A Type 2 might do all right, since her body is curvy, but her hair would be uncooperative. And she might well be the shy wallflower at the sock hop.
Type 1 women might do well in the 1930s, too -- it was the Depression, but that short-haired, bubbly type shows up in so many images. Or a Type 4 might be beautiful in the role of the sleek sophisticate. Types 2 and 3 might have hair that never "did right," and the curvier Type 2 body would be dumpy in the long, sleek lines of the clothes.
In many eras, I think, women of a particular type would be the beauties, while other types would come across as plain. It would be interesting to photoshop some of those DYT women into vintage photos to see how the styles look on them.
Fun thought exercise!
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I'm thinking I'm going to do some Pinterest boards with this idea when I have a minute. I'm thinking of using pattern illustrations.
Each era does have dominant fashion themes, but there are always some fashions in each era that will fit each type.
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Right! It's never as though everyone wore exactly the same thing. But it's also interesting to look at how the conception of what's beautiful shifts slightly from decade to decade: not just things like body type (contrast the curving, fuller-figured 50s Marilyn-Monroe beauty with the angular ideal that's dominated our cultural imagery since the late 60s), but also persona: bright and bubbly, soft and "passive," capable and authoritative and energetic, bold, simple, and confident . . .
It seems to me that although, again, of course you'd have every type in every era, you'd have one or two that were uniquely valued as ideals in a given era, while the others might be more overlooked, or considered less desirable.
I love the idea of your Pinterest boards. Looking forward to seeing what you find to include.
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I'm also interested in how these ideas extend to things like home decor. Through some trial and error I wound up with paint colors that probably seem kind of boring, neutral, and one-note to some of my friends, but just say "serene happiness" to me. Knowing more about what appeals to me and why might have saved me some of the trial-and-error on the front end, though I'm very happy with the final results.
So there's that application as well. I have a "serene home" board on my Pinterest now, as well as a more general home and garden board, and I see definite themes in my preferences, even in the pins I made before I got into all this Type stuff. I'd be really interested to see how other people's basic type plays out in their interior-design choices -- such as they are, since so much of all our home decor is dictated by children, homeschooling, and limited funds! Our house is full of hand-me-downs, and I really like the eclecticness of it . . . though I can still see a dominant theme in, I guess, the things I said yes to when people offered them!
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