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Posted: July 30 2013 at 6:01pm | IP Logged Quote leanne maree
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We have used no 3 with 2 teens. -at totally different times.
I usually get them to read it and look over the questions and we do it together. It spaks quite a lot of conversation.
Otherwise it's quite dry. It often sparks a particular book they'd like to read or something interesting to investigate.

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Has anyone tried No. 3? I don't own it, but am curious if anybody likes it.

Yes. Have it and we use it. My 8th grader is just beginning it and my senior will finish it this year. I use the #3 with commentary by Father Connell. It is formatted a little differently from the St. Joseph's Baltimore Catechism. The Q&A is followed by
    :: brief commentary by Father
    :: cross referencing from other parts of the Baltimore Catechism
    :: Scripture references (except the verses are printed completely rather than just referenced as in the St. Jo versions
    :: Important Truths about >> insert topic of the lesson here << - this is Father Connell's commentary and it's very good and very meaty, so we go slow!
    :: Study Helps - This part will look very familiar to you; it's very much like the end of chapter question format in the St. Joseph's catechisms - includes matching exercises, discussion type questions, T/F, etc.
Father Connell's commentary is quite good, and very meaty - which is why we spend 4 - 5 years on it. We cover about 10 lessons a year. There are 38 lessons in the book. We usually work on it 1 - 2 days/week in high school and the other days are spent reading other materials from religion.

Baltimore Catechism #3 is appropriate for a well formed young adult that is past confirmation age, but I wouldn't cover it any younger than 8th grade. The book itself recommends 10th-12th grade. I typically assign a very, very short amount of reading each week (usually 1-3 pages) and then narration and discussions afterward. Sometimes we complete the end of lesson questions/exercises...and sometimes we don't. I typically find that the kids get more (at this point) from just reading Fr.'s commentary, narrating it (usually written), and connecting what they've learned to other books they may be reading like the Summa or some other religion book that's been assigned.

** NOTE** ...that the Saint Benedict Press Classics version of the Baltimore Catechism #3 ONLY contains the questions and answers. No commentary. No scripture references. No end of lesson questions. Just the catechism Q&A.

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Pflaum publishing has their weekly Gospel Weeklies program for preK-8.

They follow the liturgical year and will have a special feature on Pope Francis this fall. You can get a home subscription for about $30 per year, which is not bad considering it comes with a lesson per week, plus teacher's manual and resources book.

Here is a link

I have had the chance to look at the different levels for these, and they are well done. They appear liturgically sound (for lack of a better phrase). They are also colorful and have a workbookish element, so your dc might enjoy them.

They are meant for parish faith formation, so there is definitely a school aspect to them- things like situations on the bus, in class, etc. But you could work around that if it bothered you.

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Posted: July 30 2013 at 7:46pm | IP Logged Quote pmeilaen
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pmeilaen wrote:
Has anyone tried No. 3? I don't own it, but am curious if anybody likes it.

Yes. Have it and we use it. My 8th grader is just beginning it and my senior will finish it this year. I use the #3 with commentary by Father Connell. It is formatted a little differently from the St. Joseph's Baltimore Catechism. The Q&A is followed by
    :: brief commentary by Father
    :: cross referencing from other parts of the Baltimore Catechism
    :: Scripture references (except the verses are printed completely rather than just referenced as in the St. Jo versions
    :: Important Truths about >> insert topic of the lesson here << - this is Father Connell's commentary and it's very good and very meaty, so we go slow!
    :: Study Helps - This part will look very familiar to you; it's very much like the end of chapter question format in the St. Joseph's catechisms - includes matching exercises, discussion type questions, T/F, etc.
Father Connell's commentary is quite good, and very meaty - which is why we spend 4 - 5 years on it. We cover about 10 lessons a year. There are 38 lessons in the book. We usually work on it 1 - 2 days/week in high school and the other days are spent reading other materials from religion.

Baltimore Catechism #3 is appropriate for a well formed young adult that is past confirmation age, but I wouldn't cover it any younger than 8th grade. The book itself recommends 10th-12th grade. I typically assign a very, very short amount of reading each week (usually 1-3 pages) and then narration and discussions afterward. Sometimes we complete the end of lesson questions/exercises...and sometimes we don't. I typically find that the kids get more (at this point) from just reading Fr.'s commentary, narrating it (usually written), and connecting what they've learned to other books they may be reading like the Summa or some other religion book that's been assigned.

** NOTE** ...that the Saint Benedict Press Classics version of the Baltimore Catechism #3 ONLY contains the questions and answers. No commentary. No scripture references. No end of lesson questions. Just the catechism Q&A.


Thanks, Jen. Seton uses the same version and has published a nicely done edition of it. They use if for 9th grade.    

Have you ever used The Faith Explained with No. 3? Our public library has it and the catalog description says it is a "Commentary on the official Catholic catechism for adults, the Baltimore catechism number 3."

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Posted: July 30 2013 at 7:46pm | IP Logged Quote pmeilaen
leanne maree wrote:
Eva.
We have used no 3 with 2 teens. -at totally different times.
I usually get them to read it and look over the questions and we do it together. It spaks quite a lot of conversation.
Otherwise it's quite dry. It often sparks a particular book they'd like to read or something interesting to investigate.


Thanks, Leanne, so you use it more like a reference book?

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Posted: Aug 01 2013 at 7:38am | IP Logged Quote Mackfam
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Have you ever used The Faith Explained with No. 3? Our public library has it and the catalog description says it is a "Commentary on the official Catholic catechism for adults, the Baltimore catechism number 3."

We do have it. It would work very well alongside the Baltimore Catechism #3. The book is set up exactly like the Baltimore Catechism is set up, and each chapter and section coordinates with a section of the Baltimore Catechism #3 - this makes it ideal for reading deeper after reading through a section of the Baltimore Catechism. Think of the book as a commentary on the Baltimore Catechism, arranged like the Catechism, but not including the Catechism questions; it's just commentary. The third edition includes updates from Vatican II and references the current CCC. The reading is high school level and would make for great discussion. It illuminates the Catechism very well.

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Have you ever used The Faith Explained with No. 3? Our public library has it and the catalog description says it is a "Commentary on the official Catholic catechism for adults, the Baltimore catechism number 3."

We do have it. It would work very well alongside the Baltimore Catechism #3. The book is set up exactly like the Baltimore Catechism is set up, and each chapter and section coordinates with a section of the Baltimore Catechism #3 - this makes it ideal for reading deeper after reading through a section of the Baltimore Catechism. Think of the book as a commentary on the Baltimore Catechism, arranged like the Catechism, but not including the Catechism questions; it's just commentary. The third edition includes updates from Vatican II and references the current CCC. The reading is high school level and would make for great discussion. It illuminates the Catechism very well.


That was quite helpful. Thanks for the detailed input.

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