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Jill, I started veiling for Mass years ago. I was so shy at first, I started when we were on vacation so no one at Mass would know me.  Plenty of women and girls veil at our current parish. I veil whenever we attend Mass elsewhere for whatever reason. I do stand out a little but I have either gotten positive comments or just general friendly comments so I don't think others view it as a big deal.
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Jill, a lot of us have a past we wish we didn't have, whether we wear it on our skin or not, and it can be hard to believe that the Sacrament of Confession really does wipe that past away, whether we still see physical evidence of it or not. I have found it helpful at times to talk to my confessor, in the confessional, about things I have long since confessed that still bother me -- it's not that the first confession didn't "take," but that something in me wants to hang onto that stuff and keep thinking about it, and I need the grace to practice detachment.
In one of these instances, I was telling a priest in confession about something I still bitterly regretted, even though I'd already confessed it, and it had happened long ago. His response: "You know, you are not that person any more. By God's grace, you're not that person." It was a beautiful response -- I mean, on the one hand, yes, I am that person in the sense that I have the same capacity for sin that I always had, but on the other hand, what I'm not is a person defined by *those* sins. I don't have to be haunted by them.
So do take heart. I can totally understand wanting to undo the tattoo, but what important is that your soul isn't tattooed. When you come from Confession, it's clean. And God loves you, in and out, tattoos and all.
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Though, since the Byzantine rite has always been in the vernacular, you might find different ethnic churches using it.
That rite isn't always in the vernacular. Some of the Byzantine churches use Slavonic or Koine Greek, neither of which are languages used anywhere but church. Probably less likely to find those used in a Catholic church than in a Orthodox church though. Just a bit of trivia 
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myheaven1967 wrote:
. When we get talking I get to second guessing myself. I am also very judgmental of myself. Did I do enough? Etc. I have tattoos from the past, that I am not happy about, most are fine, for me, but one in particular is not.  And I have no money at this time to fix that. So, I am very unhappy with my past and I suppose am trying to cover those sins by submerging myself and trying to be perfect, in the eyes of God. But I think in all honesty I am trying to be perfect in my own eyes, as Jesus has already forgiven me those sins.
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Jill, you ARE perfect in the eyes of God because you are trying so hard to love Him and draw nearer to Him and Our Lady!  I know what you mean, though, I find it hard not to beat myself up over a short folly in my youth. The things like tattos or a child born out-of- wedlock make it more painfully obvious that we made poor choices in our youth, but a few people have given me such comforting words "we ALL do things we regret in our youth, some just have the misfortune of their mistakes being visible". I took great comfort in this caring statement during the time when I was a single mom hurting so badly from the wounds received to my heart and soul, trying so hard to love God and "make it up to Him", and worrying every day that a biological father, who should never be in the life of any child, would try to take me to court to get to see the precious little gift God had blessed my(and my family's) life with. We can't erase the past, and yes sometimes our self-talk haunts us with it, but God is *so good* and merciful beyond human understanding, and forgives us. The beautiful thing, if we can hold onto it: Someday, if we remain faithful and do our very best to honor Him in the here and now, all that past, all those memories will be gone. In reality, if we have confessed and are sorry for our sins they are truly. washed. away. Our humanity tends to hold onto them, but mercifully when we die, we will *know them no longer* IF we hear the Dear Lord say "Well done my good and faithful servant, enter into my kingdom"! That day, our memories, regrets, all those human emotions will be beautifully washed away. I take great hope in this, even as I write this, as, like you, I tend to expect so much of myself and worry that I'm not doing enough. But you know, a little worrying that one's not doing enough isn't the worst thing, as it keeps us on our toes, and keeps the desire to do what's right and love God there on the forefront, and helps us not get lazy in the Faith!
You are trying so hard to grow, and love God, and live the Faith, you must be so dear to His heart right now! Jesus even told the parable of the lost sheep so we, and even those who struggle to be merciful to those who stray, would know *God's* true heart over those who may have strayed, but return to Him. He rejoices greatly over the purity of your desire to serve him and draw nearer to Him. Keep trying, keep studying, learning, making the Faith an everyday part of your life, and you are doing all anyone can ask of you, and all God *does* ask of you!
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SallyT wrote:
Jill, a lot of us have a past we wish we didn't have, whether we wear it on our skin or not, and it can be hard to believe that the Sacrament of Confession really does wipe that past away, whether we still see physical evidence of it or not. I have found it helpful at times to talk to my confessor, in the confessional, about things I have long since confessed that still bother me -- it's not that the first confession didn't "take," but that something in me wants to hang onto that stuff and keep thinking about it, and I need the grace to practice detachment.
In one of these instances, I was telling a priest in confession about something I still bitterly regretted, even though I'd already confessed it, and it had happened long ago. His response: "You know, you are not that person any more. By God's grace, you're not that person." It was a beautiful response -- I mean, on the one hand, yes, I am that person in the sense that I have the same capacity for sin that I always had, but on the other hand, what I'm not is a person defined by *those* sins. I don't have to be haunted by them.
So do take heart. I can totally understand wanting to undo the tattoo, but what important is that your soul isn't tattooed. When you come from Confession, it's clean. And God loves you, in and out, tattoos and all.
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How beautifully said, and so comforting! Thank you Sally!
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I felt a little awkward when I first started covering my head for Mass, but my dh helped, as he thought highly of it, like it was the thing to do, so that really helped me. Now I'm so used to it, I feel awkward if i don't. We attend an Extraordinary Form parish, but even if I go/stop at another parish/adoration chapel, I still veil. I have read some beautiful articles on why to "veil", and now I feel it's an act of humility before God for me, not in a "false humility" way, but a loving acknowledgment of the awesomeness of God, like acknowledging where I am, just like a guy takes off his hat, a way to show the very different-ness of the presence of God(because we have the Real Presence) from any place of this world.
If you feel led to, I would say go for it. If you're feeling drawn to it, that's great!  Some people do it only because they attend a church where they feel "obligated to", but when one comes to it by desire to do so, it's that much easier to begin doing so.
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myheaven1967 wrote:
Thank you for understanding!
I guess, yes what I really want, yearn for, NEED, is a deeper connection to Christ. And no amount of outward signs are going to do that. Skirt/pants, short hair/long, etc. If my home was naked with the exception of people and the love of Christ permeated from us with bare walls, than we would succeed in some closeness to Christ.If he just emanated love from our hearts. That is what it is really all about isn't it?
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This is so true and so beautiful! It's our hearts that matter, and the fact that Christ is there, and we live as such.
But, I do know for me I find it so much easier to be close to our Lord with the "externals" of the Faith. ALL the sacramentals, to me, serve as a needed not only reminder but support in the Faith. We are getting ready to tear down our mobile home that is over the basements we've built and build a house, so we are packing in earnest. In desire to make sure all my treasured articles of the Faith do not get destroyed in the process, I have carefully packed away pretty much EVERYTHING, and I decided yesterday, that I really should bring back out some of the pictures/statues, even if only a very little. The Church has such great wisdom in knowing the value in these, as they help our human senses remember the supernatural realities we cannot see. We live in a world that is "of the world" and to keep that at bay and keep the Faith at the utmost on our radar, sacramentals are a huge help!
Truly, if we had none of this, God's grace IS sufficient, BUT if we can have the visible things of the Faith there to raise our senses above *this* world there is nothing wrong in doing so, in fact there can be *great* value in doing so.
I say this only as an encouragement(hopefully), as you seem to be seeking so much, and sometimes unsure of if your desires, etc. are ok/wrong. If you desire more statues/pictures in your home, there is nothing wrong with that, especially if you find they help you in feeling closer to God. I find they really help me focus on the Faith throughout the day, and keep it foremost in my thoughts.
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Pilgrim, everything you wrote is so beautiful and I am in agreement about your words regarding the externals. I often think how amazing and brilliant it is that the church has given us so very much to touch all of our senses. It is so much easier for me personally to focus and pray and everything when the externals are rather grand, but this may just mean I am weak when left to my own self, which I am. :)
Thank you for taking the time to write out your thoughts. They are very good.
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Wow Pilgrim. I am sorry I could not respond sooner. Not so good when you forget to pay the bill that runs your phone, internet, and tv.......
Thank you for ALL your beautiful words.
Saturday my oldest son, almost 10 years old, made his profession of faith, he was baptized at a Presbyterian Church. Then followed that up with his first Confession.
Yes, I do want my life to just be engulfed by the spirit of Christ and Our beautiful Mary. I struggle I study I grown, and keep going.
Thank you so much!
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No problem! We had our internet transformer fry a couple weeks ago, so i totally understand such frustrations! Not only did that happen, but during that weekend someone got ahold of one our email accounts without our knowledge and sent out thousand of emails in our name!   
Sorry, I didn't write back sooner, we just found out that the framers for putting up our house are arrive a week earlier than we expected and we have a TON to do before they get here.
That's wonderful about your son's first confession!
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