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Posted: March 16 2013 at 8:26am | IP Logged Quote Bridget
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Let me get this straight. The 2nd photo of the 3 Popes is really with Pope Francis???? The 1st one is not.


My husband and I have looked and looked and cannot find confirmation or refutation. It certainly looks like the Holy Father's face from other pictures we found in that time period and that angle. My blog has gotten a gazillion hits from FB on that picture, so I hope someone corrects me if it is not him.

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Posted: March 16 2013 at 11:09am | IP Logged Quote pmeilaen
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St. Ann wrote:
Let me get this straight. The 2nd photo of the 3 Popes is really with Pope Francis???? The 1st one is not.


I think so, but it's hard to be sure.

Stephanie, I've been wondering, especially as we contemplate baby names , is the German for Francis, "Franz," or do you call him Francis still?


No, it's Franziskus!

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Posted: March 16 2013 at 12:26pm | IP Logged Quote CrunchyMom
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St. Ann wrote:
Let me get this straight. The 2nd photo of the 3 Popes is really with Pope Francis???? The 1st one is not.


I think so, but it's hard to be sure.

Stephanie, I've been wondering, especially as we contemplate baby names , is the German for Francis, "Franz," or do you call him Francis still?


No, it's Franziskus!


Thank you, Eva! I assume Franz is a shortened form of Franziskus, then? It was confusing because Franz didn't seem quite right, and yet all the royals who were "Franz" are "Francis" in English.

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Posted: March 16 2013 at 1:26pm | IP Logged Quote pmeilaen
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pmeilaen wrote:
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St. Ann wrote:
Let me get this straight. The 2nd photo of the 3 Popes is really with Pope Francis???? The 1st one is not.


I think so, but it's hard to be sure.

Stephanie, I've been wondering, especially as we contemplate baby names , is the German for Francis, "Franz," or do you call him Francis still?


No, it's Franziskus!


Thank you, Eva! I assume Franz is a shortened form of Franziskus, then? It was confusing because Franz didn't seem quite right, and yet all the royals who were "Franz" are "Francis" in English.


Yes, it's the short form, but not used for the saints, they are always "Franziskus." It's different with kings, they were normally baptized "Franz."

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Posted: March 16 2013 at 2:37pm | IP Logged Quote St. Ann
Franziskus is always St. Francis of Assisi.

St. Franz von Sales
St. Franz Xavier

are the other 2 Francis that I know off hand. I just asked my dh to confirm this, because Eva thought something else.
With that I just have to say... Eva, you must come back soon and visit your Vaterland!

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Posted: March 16 2013 at 2:41pm | IP Logged Quote St. Ann
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St. Ann wrote:
Let me get this straight. The 2nd photo of the 3 Popes is really with Pope Francis???? The 1st one is not.


My husband and I have looked and looked and cannot find confirmation or refutation. It certainly looks like the Holy Father's face from other pictures we found in that time period and that angle. My blog has gotten a gazillion hits from FB on that picture, so I hope someone corrects me if it is not him.


Bridget, if you get lots of hits on your blog from Germany, it is because I have sent links to it to a few friends I know. You are going to be famous in Germany!!!

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Posted: March 16 2013 at 2:45pm | IP Logged Quote CrunchyMom
Thanks, Stephanie. Well isn't that just confusing?

I just did a quick google, and this is how German wikipedia lists them. Franziskus for Francis and Franz for de (or rather, von) Sales and Xavier (Xaver in German).

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Posted: March 16 2013 at 3:50pm | IP Logged Quote pmeilaen
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Franziskus is always St. Francis of Assisi.

St. Franz von Sales
St. Franz Xavier

are the other 2 Francis that I know off hand. I just asked my dh to confirm this, because Eva thought something else.
With that I just have to say... Eva, you must come back soon and visit your Vaterland!


Thanks for pointing those two out. They hadn't come to my mind, so I thought I would actually look them and others up. There are, in fact, quite a few saints named "Franziskus" and quite a few saints named "Franz." Take a look at this list. Maybe it depended on the time and age how those saints were translated into German or how they were named in general? Anyway, "Franziskus" makes people think of Francis of Assisi!

Stephanie, I would love to come back and visit. It's just too expensive for us with one income! I could meet you so easily since my sister and her family still live very close to you (as you might remember). My husband has been to Europe for research purposes, but we have not been able to come along. Sometimes I think I will only get a chance to go back when somebody from my family in Germany dies -- and then I will have to ask my German relatives to pay for the flight.       


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Posted: March 16 2013 at 4:24pm | IP Logged Quote St. Ann
Eva, I wonder if all the other Saints Francis, Franz, Francesco....came after Francis of Assisi???

I understand completely about the overseas travel. We are able to make the trip only because of the generous help of my parents. Otherwise it would be impossible.

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Posted: March 17 2013 at 10:20pm | IP Logged Quote pmeilaen
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Eva, I wonder if all the other Saints Francis, Franz, Francesco....came after Francis of Assisi???

I understand completely about the overseas travel. We are able to make the trip only because of the generous help of my parents. Otherwise it would be impossible.


That would be interesting to find out, I don't know, you would have to go through all the different saints. The name itself seems to be older than St. Francis, at least according to Wikipedia.

So nice your parents are helping out with the costs. Last time we were back (six years ago) my parents also payed for everything. It was their 40th wedding anniversary, but we could only go for a week to celebrate.

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Posted: March 18 2013 at 3:48pm | IP Logged Quote MaryM
Did you see fun fact about our Holy Father's favorite marian image/devotion - Mary Untier of Knots - Pope Francis' Favorite Marian Image

That is so neat - it's a lesser known image we have talked about at 4 Real extensively in the past.

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Did you see fun fact about our Holy Father's favorite Marian image/devotion - Mary Untier of Knots - Pope Francis' Favorite Marian Image

That is so neat - it's a lesser known image we have talked about at 4 Real extensively in the past.

Our Lady Undoer of Knots
Novena Our Lady Undoer of Knots


Oh, yeah- one of our favs here
Thanks for sharing, Mary! It makes me like him even more

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He touches the paralyzed.

see the video. He descended his papal mobile to bless this man.

Get out your hankies. Or maybe it's just me touched this way?

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Get out your hankies. Or maybe it's just me touched this way?


Not just you. Love.

Every morning my daughter asks me first thing in the morning, "So how is our Papa today?" I am loving this little push to find out each and every day.

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Get out your hankies.


Crying Happy Tears......

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God bless him!

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Posted: March 22 2013 at 5:56pm | IP Logged Quote JennGM
Romano Guardini is one of his favorite authors.

Which is similar to Pope Benedict.

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Posted: March 23 2013 at 11:46am | IP Logged Quote Christine
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The first one up there isn't Pope Francis. The people who originally posted that apologized for making the mistake.

Pope Francis wasn't ordained an auxiliary bishop until 1992 and that photo is way older than that. It's from 1985; Pope Francis wasn't made a Cardinal until 2001.


I apologize for posting the first photo that Jenn linked. Someone left the following comment on my blog:

"That is the then future Cardinal Jorge María Mejía. Mejía was born in Buenos Aires, Argentina, and was made a Chaplain of His Holiness on 20 September 1978. Incidentaly his name and nationality are the same as those of Pope Francis.

So please, don't confuse him with Jorge María Bergoglio! Surely Bergoglio did not look so much older then Pope John-Paul II, and Cardinal Ratzinger during the time this photo was taken!!

Please forward the correction to many who are believing the mistake!"

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