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Malachi and Levi are nice. I like Nehemiah. You could always use Miah or Nehi for short, if you wanted to shorten for the sake of calling him. Naming a baby is such a blessing and privilege! God bless you and your little baby-in-waiting!
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I like the suggested names of Micah, Malachai, Simeon, and Thaddeus, oh, and Levi.
We have a Nathaniel, and it's most often Nate with close family, and FIL calls him Nathan, which *drives me nuts*    , but I just let it go, as I don't know if he'd even remember to call him by his real name. I DO NOT like the sound of Nathan, and I chose his name specifically as Nathaniel, as I like the name and the sound of it, so I can really understand your husband looking at whether a name will have a likely nickname. We think long and hard over the name, and it feels like putting your special, personal stamp on your precious gift that God has allowed you to participate in the creation with and you don't others to defile it(the name) so to speak. 
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Oh wow my favourite discussion and within my parameters.
We also go for unusual, three syllable names, not to be shortened, though in our case mostly Catholic rather than biblical but ...we do have a Malachi
So voting for Malachi 
Let's see, also dh's other choices that are biblical;
Tobias
Jedidiah
Matthias
I like Jeremiah and Gideon
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I understand preferring to call a child by their full name, rather than a shortened version. That's great.
What I do not get is anger directed at those who do shorten names. Please let me explain.
Maybe it's a cultural thing, but in my family (Italian American) and my husband's family (Cuban-American) everybody gets a nickname. Everybody. They get it from day one and usually never outgrow it. Usually it is a shortened version of their name (Eddy, Ricky, Ceci, Teo) but it could also be some other nickname related to appearance or character traits (we have a "Lollipop," a "Pooky" and a "Chino" for instance).
These are terms of endearance and convey the love and affection we have for one another. When someone becomes a close friend, they are naturally called by a nickname as well. Because in our culture to use the full name is seen as formal, distant, or aloof. It implies a impersonal or business relationship only.
To shorten the name of a child is something people raised in families like this just naturally do. I do it all the time, especially with children. No harm or slight is meant by it, in fact quite the opposite.It means we like you! 
I understand that it is not this way for all families and that is great, too. You chose your child's name for a reason and have the right to your preferences.
But I just wanted to convey that if someone calls your child by a shortened version of their name, to please give them the benefit of the doubt. It could be just that they are showing affection for the child in a way that feels natural to them, and to be angry about that seems misplaced. It's just a cultural thing, and done out of affection.
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JodieLyn wrote:
I've moved enough to know that the "know someone" rule will just backfire.. even if you never move.. someone with your child's name is just as likely to move near you and unless you're also going to have a rule that "we can't make friends with people who have our kids names"..  |
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 It is only our rule. Dh doesn't care if others after us name the same, he just doesn't want us to do so. And it is a little relaxed with friends and acquaintances we do not see often. I think the main concern is not seeming to honor one family member over another or inadvertently slighting someone. Deceased relatives are fair game though. 
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lapazfarm wrote:
I understand preferring to call a child by their full name, rather than a shortened version. That's great.
What I do not get is anger directed at those who do shorten names. Please let me explain.
Maybe it's a cultural thing, but in my family (Italian American) and my husband's family (Cuban-American) everybody gets a nickname. Everybody. They get it from day one and usually never outgrow it. Usually it is a shortened version of their name (Eddy, Ricky, Ceci, Teo) but it could also be some other nickname related to appearance or character traits (we have a "Lollipop," a "Pooky" and a "Chino" for instance).
These are terms of endearance and convey the love and affection we have for one another. When someone becomes a close friend, they are naturally called by a nickname as well. Because in our culture to use the full name is seen as formal, distant, or aloof. It implies a impersonal or business relationship only.
To shorten the name of a child is something people raised in families like this just naturally do. I do it all the time, especially with children. No harm or slight is meant by it, in fact quite the opposite.It means we like you!
I understand that it is not this way for all families and that is great, too. You chose your child's name for a reason and have the right to your preferences.
But I just wanted to convey that if someone calls your child by a shortened version of their name, to please give them the benefit of the doubt. It could be just that they are showing affection for the child in a way that feels natural to them, and to be angry about that seems misplaced. It's just a cultural thing, and done out of affection. |
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The funny thing is all of our kids have nicknames or are called by one syllable of their names by dh! He would prefer others to call them by their full names though, so I think maybe what you described is part of it (having an "ah ha! moment here ).
Having a term of endearment used by family/close friends is one thing, having random strangers call them by anything but their more formal name is another. So maybe he would prefer a name that is not typically shortened so that there is a distance there, so "outsiders" do not take that liberty? Perhaps it is one more way he is trying to set up defenses for them, a distinction between those who know and love and care for them and the rest of the world? Or maybe I am waaaay over thinking things? But that kind of rationalization makes sense knowing my dh. He is a papa bear. 
I should clarify that the shortened name rule is one I hold to as well. For me, I admit, it has more to do with me liking the full name so much that it is grating to hear others use a shortened version, for I often dislike the shortened version.  For instance I like how Tobias sounds and feels rolling off the tongue, but I find Toby grating, so because people would be likely to shorten it to Toby I steer away from it. Matthias is one of my favorite names, but dh insists it would be constantly shortened to Matt, and I do not care for Matt (this name has an unpleasant association for me).
So yeah, between the two of us we are excellent at eliminating prospects! 
Ah, the name game! So much fun, and so much work!
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Therese, food for thought. Thank you for explaining, I never thought of it like that. Australian men are big at shortening names, or more adding an o, nick then often become Nico.
Booksnbabes, the other consideration is how it looks with your surname, not just how it sounds. Dh was really keen to call our last Tobias, it sounded fine with out surname but it didn't look good. Our surname has two 'ss' and with the 's' at the end of Tobias, it just didn't look strong enough.
I do understand what you mean about Matthias, if you aren't keen on shortening it would be an easy one to shorten. I quite like Nicodemus, but I could see it being shortened and if you are keen on the three syllables like we are it's not the same.
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More ideas:
Simeon (suggested previously by someone else...just met a Franciscan priest with this name!)
Reuben
Jesse
Mahlon (first husband of Ruth in the Old Testament, and also the name of a very kind and talented friend of mine!)
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lapazfarm wrote:
I understand preferring to call a child by their full name, rather than a shortened version. That's great.
What I do not get is anger directed at those who do shorten names. Please let me explain.
Maybe it's a cultural thing, but in my family (Italian American) and my husband's family (Cuban-American) everybody gets a nickname. Everybody. They get it from day one and usually never outgrow it. Usually it is a shortened version of their name (Eddy, Ricky, Ceci, Teo) but it could also be some other nickname related to appearance or character traits (we have a "Lollipop," a "Pooky" and a "Chino" for instance).
These are terms of endearance and convey the love and affection we have for one another. When someone becomes a close friend, they are naturally called by a nickname as well. Because in our culture to use the full name is seen as formal, distant, or aloof. It implies a impersonal or business relationship only.
To shorten the name of a child is something people raised in families like this just naturally do. I do it all the time, especially with children. No harm or slight is meant by it, in fact quite the opposite.It means we like you!
I understand that it is not this way for all families and that is great, too. You chose your child's name for a reason and have the right to your preferences.
But I just wanted to convey that if someone calls your child by a shortened version of their name, to please give them the benefit of the doubt. It could be just that they are showing affection for the child in a way that feels natural to them, and to be angry about that seems misplaced. It's just a cultural thing, and done out of affection. |
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Great point on nicknames, thanks for sharing!!! I agree. We use multiple nicknames for each family member here, and I always love to see families(or close friends) who do, as I see it as that they are affectionate.
I can also see being careful of names that typically have nicknames one would not like. I never even thought of our sons name being shortened to Nathan (pregnancy brain) and while it's not the end of the world, it does bug me, for a couple of reasons. I find that if I know ahead of time what nicknames will bother me, I can head off bothersome nicknames at the pass with those close to us. For instance our other son has J at the beginning of first and middle names, and someone mentioned calling him JJ before he was born, and I just stated that that was a name I didn't want him called (due to unpleasant association), and it was well taken. There are plenty of other nicknames the same family members have come up with. I'm not against nicknames, I love them, and I'm always grateful when those close to us will graciously not use nicknames that are bothersome.
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Your DH is one tough nut. Better hope for a girl
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Missed this earlier, I really like Sebastian! I won't mention it was a character in the Disney's Little Mermaid and maybe he won't remember.
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Booksnbabes wrote:
Aagot wrote:
Your DH is one tough nut. Better hope for a girl
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Missed this earlier, I really like Sebastian! |
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Well I have a Sebastian as well as Malachi, so voting for Sebastian as well
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I actually had not thought about that connection he does have a catchy tune though
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