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I'm also on antibiotics for Group B in my urine! I feel like such a mess!!! But at least my thyroid and iron levels were fine 
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Is this a new recommendation? I was always told that only the treatment with antibiotics during labor is able to kill it. When you take antibiotics before, it sometimes goes away, but comes back. To find out you would have to test almost weekly.
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pmeilaen wrote:
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I'm also on antibiotics for Group B in my urine! I feel like such a mess!!! But at least my thyroid and iron levels were fine
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Is this a new recommendation? I was always told that only the treatment with antibiotics during labor is able to kill it. When you take antibiotics before, it sometimes goes away, but comes back. To find out you would have to test almost weekly. |
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I was told the same thing as Eva. I am given antibiotics during labor.
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group B in urine is a UTI and should be treated.. the other type you're talking about is typically tested near the end of pregnancy and it may or may not change after testing.. whether treated or not.
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Well, we do raw milk and aged cheeses (unlike Europe, is is illegal to sell raw fresh cheeses, so all conventional dairy is pasteurized). I just need to get back in the habit of drinking the milk again!
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Did I misunderstand something, I thought you had said earlier you had been dairy free for a year. Was that just milk free then?
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| Face and arms, about 15 minutes a day.. and in winter I would shoot for noonish since that will be your best exposure. My book is a bit older and it say 3 times a week.. but if you're low you probably need more than that. |
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My German books say to start with 10 to 15 minutes and then try to stay outdoors for up to 2 hours! They stress that this is written for the northern part of Germany and that it doesn't mean you need to be in your bathing suit. They talk about the face. It also mentions that you should expose yourself to the blue sky, not necessarily directly to the sun. This is supposed to happen daily. I guess this is not important for most people in this country, but I thought it was interesting to see the differences in exposure length depending on where you live.
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pmeilaen wrote:
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Well, we do raw milk and aged cheeses (unlike Europe, is is illegal to sell raw fresh cheeses, so all conventional dairy is pasteurized). I just need to get back in the habit of drinking the milk again!
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Did I misunderstand something, I thought you had said earlier you had been dairy free for a year. Was that just milk free then? |
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Sorry, no. I was, but I weaned the baby and am eating dairy again. Everyone else was still drinking their raw milk and pastured butter, rtc...
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| group B in urine is a UTI and should be treated.. the other type you're talking about is typically tested near the end of pregnancy and it may or may not change after testing.. whether treated or not. |
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If it is ever isolated in your urine, it is treated, but it also means that it is so heavily colonized, you are considered Group B positive for the duration of the pregnancy whether you test positive with the swab at 36 weeks or not.
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I just got put on D3 as well. For vitamin A, I take beta carotene capsules. My understanding is that your body will then only produce as much vitamin A as you need so there's no concern of overdosing. I can't stomach cod liver oil. 
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Interesting.. for the northern third of the US they say we can't get enough vit D from the sun. (and we are tipped, so that the Pacific NW is actually more north than the North East). And of course other than the few minutes of sun they say to use sunscreen all the time even for short exposure. They've been way more concerned about too much sun than not enough.
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| group B in urine is a UTI and should be treated.. the other type you're talking about is typically tested near the end of pregnancy and it may or may not change after testing.. whether treated or not. |
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If it is ever isolated in your urine, it is treated, but it also means that it is so heavily colonized, you are considered Group B positive for the duration of the pregnancy whether you test positive with the swab at 36 weeks or not. |
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I had that too, but I was told, as I said before, that the treatment didn't make sense until you are in labor. With my last children I declined the test and was not treated. My midwife told me that many women always have had group B strep, we just didn't know about it. She said that an infection of a healthy baby is extremely rare. A baby is much more likely to pick up a bug at the hospital due to a reduced immune system caused by the antibiotics during labor.
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Well, we do raw milk and aged cheeses (unlike Europe, is is illegal to sell raw fresh cheeses, so all conventional dairy is pasteurized). I just need to get back in the habit of drinking the milk again!
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Sorry, no. I was, but I weaned the baby and am eating dairy again. Everyone else was still drinking their raw milk and pastured butter, rtc... |
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Now I understand! 
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pmeilaen wrote:
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| group B in urine is a UTI and should be treated.. the other type you're talking about is typically tested near the end of pregnancy and it may or may not change after testing.. whether treated or not. |
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If it is ever isolated in your urine, it is treated, but it also means that it is so heavily colonized, you are considered Group B positive for the duration of the pregnancy whether you test positive with the swab at 36 weeks or not. |
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I had that too, but I was told, as I said before, that the treatment didn't make sense until you are in labor. With my last children I declined the test and was not treated. My midwife told me that many women always have had group B strep, we just didn't know about it. She said that an infection of a healthy baby is extremely rare. A baby is much more likely to pick up a bug at the hospital due to a reduced immune system caused by the antibiotics during labor. |
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Hmmm. I did decline the antibiotics during labor with my last birth, the only one for which I was Group B positive, for those reasons (and with the supporting knowledge that in Europe, they are not as aggressive in treating it). I think my midwives are required to offer them, but they are easy going about my declining them. I've just never had it in my urine before or even heard of it and did what I was told. 
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oh do get on probiotics (acidofilus) asap while on antibiotics and keep taking those for about 30 days after.. it'll keep the antibiotics from causing other problems for you.
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| Interesting.. for the northern third of the US they say we can't get enough vit D from the sun. (and we are tipped, so that the Pacific NW is actually more north than the North East). And of course other than the few minutes of sun they say to use sunscreen all the time even for short exposure. They've been way more concerned about too much sun than not enough. |
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When I hear recommendations like that I always wonder how humankind has survived so far without vitamin supplements and official recommendations about what we need to take and how deficient we are. It's amazing we are still around  !
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| group B in urine is a UTI and should be treated.. the other type you're talking about is typically tested near the end of pregnancy and it may or may not change after testing.. whether treated or not. |
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If it is ever isolated in your urine, it is treated, but it also means that it is so heavily colonized, you are considered Group B positive for the duration of the pregnancy whether you test positive with the swab at 36 weeks or not. |
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I had that too, but I was told, as I said before, that the treatment didn't make sense until you are in labor. With my last children I declined the test and was not treated. My midwife told me that many women always have had group B strep, we just didn't know about it. She said that an infection of a healthy baby is extremely rare. A baby is much more likely to pick up a bug at the hospital due to a reduced immune system caused by the antibiotics during labor. |
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Hmmm. I did decline the antibiotics during labor with my last birth, the only one for which I was Group B positive, for those reasons (and with the supporting knowledge that in Europe, they are not as aggressive in treating it). I think my midwives are required to offer them, but they are easy going about my declining them. I've just never had it in my urine before or even heard of it and did what I was told. |
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My very first gynecologist told me that when you have it once, you will always have it. That was my first pregnancy and with my last pregnancies I have declined even the tests. I was simply sick and tired of all the tests that are being offered and/or performed on pregnant women. I felt like I was an ill person and not a woman about to give new life. I know there are situations when tests can save the life of the mother and/or child, but for the majority of women more tests and worries are not necessarily a good idea. The only test I couldn't decline in New York State were the AIDS tests for mother and baby. So I hope you will have a happy and stress-free rest of your pregnancy and a wonderful birth.
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Lindsay, I was tested with low D at the beginning of this pregnancy, too... 29 just below normal, but down from 40 at the beginning of the year. I think a lot of it had to do with being pregnant *and* nursing still... and maybe some absorption problems, as I was taking raw fermented cod liver oil at the time plus about 2000 IU of supplemental D3. Considering that I was already supplementing and still low, she told me to bump up my supplementation to 5000 IU. I kind of have an indicator for low D in my asthma... if my D levels are low, I wheeze. I increase my D, the wheezing stops. I haven't been retested yet, but I've been feeling ok for a while, so I went down to 3000 IU. Mostly what I've read seems to indicate that it's best to shoot for values in the middle of the normal range, not too high or too low.
I don't really know how much cod liver oil I should be taking, though. I know that the Weston Price recommendations are up to 1-2 tsp of the raw fermented oil, but... that just seems like a lot.
I've actually had some problems with my supplements lately, too; the dose of multivitamin I was taking earlier in my pregnancy is now making me really queasy. It has high levels of C and B vitamins, and I wonder if that has anything to do with it? I mean, am I absorbing more and thus don't need as much now?
Anyway, just seems like keeping on top of this stuff can be really nervewracking. Hope you start feeling better soon, Lindsay! 
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Carlson's makes good vitamin D3, but I seem to be allergic to something they formulate it with. My face and eyes swell! Watch to make sure your vitamin A doesn't get to high with the combination of vitamins. I would try to get out in the sun as much as possible. They say that the stomach is a good place for you to absorb vitamin D, if you have a safe and private place to do that.
I had GBS in my urine with #4, but I treated it with abx and then took a protocol of garlic, echinacea, vitamin C, and things I don't remember at the end of pregnancy. I also did the hibiclens rinse. Both of my last two were fine with that. :)
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Thanks so much for all the support and insights. I'm trying to trust that Rainbow Light is a good brand for now, even though I know a liquid vitamin is often better. Maybe I can revisit my choice once I'm not queasy, but I'm really loving how easy it is to take a gummy I've never been good at taking supplements (as would seem apparent  ), and I figure the vitamins I'm willing to take regularly have to be better than the ones sitting on my shelf.
I do wish it weren't January  . It hardly seems worth it to go outside with exposed skin and get chilled when I'm already cold all day (likely attributed to the deficiency!), but I'm probably just being a baby. It is warmer than usual for this time of year, but still only in the 50s.
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take your tea (or coffee) and a blanket for the parts of you not exposed
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I suppose this may have been suggested already, I have only scanned the thread.
The sun is the best form of Vit D there is. I know its winter but its better than any tablets or vitamins.
There is a definite link between lack of sun and depression.
Is there a fetal development reason that you need to take it.. Ie neural tube defects etc or is this just the latest.
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