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The Arlington Catholic Herald ran a CNS photo of "Papal Miter Cakes Mark Anniversary" with the caption: "Baker Manuela Maier displays "sweet miter" cakes in the small Bavarian village of Marktl am Inn -- the German birthplace of Pope Benedict XVI. The Church marked the first year of his pontificate April 19."
The picture has some flat cakes or cookies shaped like miters with crosses in the middle -- 3 different kinds.
I'm in search for more information on this. What is the real German name for these cookies, any more pictures and perhaps a recipe or two.
I couldn't find the stock photo on CNS website, nor some Google searches pull up anything. But I don't know the German names, either. Any help here?
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found one at st. nicholas center
but no german name.
would love to be your research assistant, jenn, this kind of information fascinates me too. i'll let you know if i find anything else.
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Thanks, Stef. The shape is right, but the picture in the paper is definitely cookies. I guess the translation for cookies and cakes is off. I find that problem with European vs. American terms of cakes and cookies.
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would love to be your research assistant, jenn, this kind of information fascinates me too. i'll let you know if i find anything else. |
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Thanks! It's so much fun to do this! I have the mitre cookie cutters from St. Nicholas Center (scroll down page) that give more visual.
Now in the pic from Catholic News Service, the cookies look like layered with some kind of jelly.
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Jenn -- do you know if there is a picture of these cakes somewhere? Does Arlington Herald have their issue online?
I'm curious and hope I can help you track this down....
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hi again jenn, i've e-mailed a couple of German food bloggers. i did find the pic online, i'll send it to them and will post again if they know anything:)
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Mary G wrote:
Jenn -- do you know if there is a picture of these cakes somewhere? Does Arlington Herald have their issue online?
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Mary, I've been looking for the pictures, can't find them. The Herald does put some articles online, but not the CNS photos. This is not the first time a photo has piqued my curiosity and I couldn't find anything about it!
I'm close, but not there yet. Here are some goods in honor of the Pope.
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stefoodie wrote:
hi again jenn, i've e-mailed a couple of German food bloggers. i did find the pic online, i'll send it to them and will post again if they know anything:) |
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Yeah! How did you find that? I tried a variety of Google searches. And this one is in color, even! Much better than our b&w.
I appreciate the footwork, Stef!
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Sorry for the serial posting...but the photo says "Reuters" and our paper had CNS Photo. Interesting.
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It looks like 2 different things. Maybe the center one is a sweet roll pastry? The cookies look like the Christmas cookie that is sandwiched together with jelly in the center and a cut-out on top. I'll check Mimi Sheraton's Christmas cookbook.
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Stef, maybe you know this. See this picture on this blog? It's marked Reuters. Do you need permission to post something like this, or giving credit is fine?
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I have been searching alongside you incredible women this morning and didn't find the picture (how DID you find that stef?) nor anything besides the St. Nicholas cookie cutters and cookie recipes (of any substance). Now that I see the picture and have read a few articles about Benedict's hometown, I'm thinking: These are quite possibly not traditional cakes at all. Purely a guess, but read this article from last year. It makes me think that the bakeries there simply are celebrating their "favored son".
What do you think?
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Jen L. wrote:
I have been searching alongside you incredible women this morning and didn't find the picture (how DID you find that stef?) nor anything besides the St. Nicholas cookie cutters and cookie recipes (of any substance). Now that I see the picture and have read a few articles about Benedict's hometown, I'm thinking: These are quite possibly not traditional cakes at all. Purely a guess, but read this article from last year. It makes me think that the bakeries there simply are celebrating their "favored son".
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Well, I'm operating on a few assumptions. I read a few articles and some baked goods names were changed to reflect the new Pope, so they weren't necessarily new creations.
I also know from one of my sisters whose husband has family from Germany and has visited a few times, and some of the relatives lived nearby for a while before returning to Germany. They say that each village has a special cookie recipe they claim as their own. And the other tidbit, most cookie baking is at Christmas time.
That has just made me so interested to find these special recipes...I need more knowledge of German to find out.
I just wonder if this mitre cookie isn't something "traditional with a twist"...but Jen, you might be right, it could be something new.
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Jen L. wrote:
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This is what I started thinking. Of all the Dutch or German St. Nicholas food traditions, I could not find a "miter" anything. The Germans have a Christmas cookie called Spitzbuben(Grandmother's Jelly Cookie) which I believe was transformed into a Miter for this anniversary. Clever!!
BTW, we made the miter sugar cookies without a cutter; very simple if you want to whip up a batch. Just make a paper pattern and cut around with a sharp knife.
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JennGM wrote:
The shape is right, but the picture in the paper is definitely cookies. I guess the translation for cookies and cakes is off. I find that problem with European vs. American terms of cakes and cookies |
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hehe...this is fun: The word cookie first appeared in the English language around 1700 and almost certainly derives from the Dutch koekje, meaning little cake.
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LOL, i am the Google queen !
seriously though, when i google i try different combinations of words -- that link turns up if you look for "sweet mitre" or "manuela maier". i also saw that article you found jen, and thought maybe they were just renaming everyday bakery items. but who knows, since there are special cutters for this cookie, maybe there's also a special recipe? would the st. nicholas center folks know perhaps?
jenn, about the Reuters pic -- really tricky. some say as long as you give credit it's fine. some say you should NEVER use a pic unless permission was granted first. some bloggers do this and some don't. the laws are still being written on this. for one thing, should anyone want to file charges, they have to prove loss or potential loss of income and things like that. gets messy and expensive right away so unless they're a big company with money to spend most people don't bother -- i didn't, though it gave me some stress-filled days tracking down the offenders and asking them to take stuff down. some "victims" also think it's free advertising anyway (same thinking behind mp3s, some artists don't want their stuff freely downloadable anywhere, other artists don't mind). i personally don't do it because i like the photography part of blogging, i.e., i'm learning too.
more info here (a PDF file) on internet copyright, opposing view here
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stefoodie wrote:
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Poor Manuela, I didn't try googling her name at all! (I tried all variations of mitre, miter, Gehren (babel fish says that's the German word for miter) and Marktl am Inn but I just ignored the baker herself!)
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Jen L. wrote:
stefoodie wrote:
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Poor Manuela, I didn't try googling her name at all! (I tried all variations of mitre, miter, Gehren (babel fish says that's the German word for miter) and Marktl am Inn but I just ignored the baker herself!)
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I did search for Manuela, but I didn't take the second step to sort English results only. Shame on me...I was so close!
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momwise wrote:
Jen L. wrote:
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This is what I started thinking. Of all the Dutch or German St. Nicholas food traditions, I could not find a "miter" anything. The Germans have a Christmas cookie called Spitzbuben(Grandmother's Jelly Cookie) which I believe was transformed into a Miter for this anniversary. Clever!!
BTW, we made the miter sugar cookies without a cutter; very simple if you want to whip up a batch. Just make a paper pattern and cut around with a sharp knife. |
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Great sleuthing, Gwen et al! Looks like a close match.
We've done the mitre cookies in the speculaas cookies, Dutch spice cookies, with knives, not just cutters.
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hmmm..
when i saw the pic my first thought was Linzer cookies -- they actually look like your spitzbuben, Gwen (Swiss, spitzbuebe). not sure about the ones on the left or the center though.
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Jenn -- the one dusted with powdered sugar looks like a shortbread cookie with jam in-between (very much like a Linzer Torte but as a cookie). Spitzbuhen look like a "jam print cookie in that the jam is just in the center, not layered between the cookies (like with the Linzer-style).
The other looks just like a "danish" with a piece of dough for the cross -- I know they make that kind (don't know the name) in Austria.
Am I helping or muddying the waters ?
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