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Posted: March 03 2012 at 11:04am | IP Logged Quote JodieLyn

Well.. there you have it..

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Each winter, on average, your risk of frost is from September 19 through June 18.
Almost certainly, however, you will receive frost from October 5 through May 30.

You are almost guaranteed that you will not get frost from July 7 through September 2.

Your frost-free growing season is around 93 days.


So I guess I had my dates pretty well.

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Posted: April 10 2012 at 12:32pm | IP Logged Quote Grace&Chaos

Angel wrote:
I found an interesting online tool this morning: Dave's Garden Last Frost Dates by Zipcode. You can put it in your zipcode and it will show you not only your typical last frost date, but also a breakdown of low temperatures by percentage for various dates.


Angela, I just did this for fun and I guess we have 326 frost-free growing days in my area   

I'm trying very hard this year to give a kitchen garden a fighting chance on our hill. I bought a few seeds from our local Armstrong garden but have been reading about really trying to find some heirloom seeds to plant and trying to save the seeds from what you grow to replant so I ordered from Annie's Heirloom Seeds. I'm giving their small Italian garden collection a try .

We planted our other seeds early March, but of course the novice that I am I've just always planted straight into the ground. Many don't germinate and those that do, well, they serve their science/botany lesson purpose but we never get to harvest due to many critter friends at night . The kids will keep tending to what we've planted so far and hope our innovative enclosures keep them out this year. I really want to try some seedling pots indoors with my Annie seeds and get my dh to make some raise beds for me.

It might take me a few seasons to get the hang of really keeping and tending an edible garden area.

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Posted: April 10 2012 at 2:47pm | IP Logged Quote stefoodie

We have 169 days in our area .

I started 112 different seeds (including old ones ~4-7 years old, from my wintersowing and seedtrading days at Gardenweb) and I have about 30+ up. I'm growing everything in the front yard this year because there are some shrubs that we're removing and some areas that never had anything good grow well in them -- so I'm mixing veggies and herbs and flowers all over the place and just seeing what it looks like -- hopefully it won't bother the neighbors too much (esp. those that love their well-manicured lawns and professionally-done landscaping).

Morning glory is supposedly unkillable so I've gone ahead and put that in the ground (hope I don't regret it! Some people have had them for 5-7 years and they still can't get rid of it!) and I'm growing spinach, chard, and Asian greens in the herb patch. Found out recently that our last frost date is May 10 so I bought extra pots to put the seedlings in. It's a lot of work but really rewarding and the 10-yo and 3-yo are having soooo much fun helping. Our porch is filled with pots, etc. right now. We haven't had a decent flower and veggie garden since 2005.

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Posted: April 10 2012 at 3:36pm | IP Logged Quote JodieLyn

My cucumber seedlings all died I still have time to start them over but

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Posted: April 10 2012 at 4:28pm | IP Logged Quote JennGM

Grace&Chaos wrote:
We planted our other seeds early March, but of course the novice that I am I've just always planted straight into the ground. Many don't germinate and those that do, well, they serve their science/botany lesson purpose but we never get to harvest due to many critter friends at night . The kids will keep tending to what we've planted so far and hope our innovative enclosures keep them out this year. I really want to try some seedling pots indoors with my Annie seeds and get my dh to make some raise beds for me.

It might take me a few seasons to get the hang of really keeping and tending an edible garden area.


My early years of gardening I always bought plants. I seem to start my seeds late every year, this year is no different. But after such a strong surge in temps early in spring we have had frost and freezes, so I'm glad I haven't put anything in the ground. I will be straight sowing quite a few in to the ground this year -- some plants just do better without transplanting.

I remember my first year discovering cutworm damage in the mornings. That was devastating to learn, so I make sure all my seedlings have collars, either cardboard or aluminum foil. Dh gets distressed seeing all the empty rolls accumulating.

I also went on the cheap for seed starting and used my egg cartons. I was inspired by Kimberlee's seedlings.

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Posted: April 10 2012 at 4:33pm | IP Logged Quote CrunchyMom

I was late, too. And, I did buy some plants last week that were larger than my late started ones, but I hope to get mine into the ground for some successive harvests.

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Posted: April 10 2012 at 5:42pm | IP Logged Quote Mackfam

I got some plants in our gardens from our seed starting. Not all survived...thanks to a cat. I still have some more things to get in, like our potatoes, and replacing the tomatoes that were dug up. Hopefully the basil and flat leaf parsley survivors will continue thriving. Corn will go in later. But we got our raspberry and blueberries planted and in, and we mulched them last weekend. They're looking so healthy and fantastic! The strawberries look lovely, too. All in all, even with some plants going in later than I'd hoped, it's still a good start. And we're supposed to come close to a frost tomorrow night (even though our days are near 80 right now and will be back to around 80 in a couple of days), so having fewer plants overall will be easier to deal with since I have a few cloches to cover them.

I do hope to get my flower seed sown soon though. I long to see the flowers coming up in the potager. (Please note my not-random dropping of my favorite word!! I even used it at the market the other day....just mentioned in passing....our little potager Isn't it a delicious word to use???!!!)

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Posted: April 10 2012 at 7:35pm | IP Logged Quote stefoodie

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I even used it at the market the other day....just mentioned in passing....our little potager    Isn't it a delicious word to use???!!!)


Absolutely agree!!!   

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Posted: April 10 2012 at 9:00pm | IP Logged Quote Angel

It looks like I will be buying my tomatoes and peppers as plants this year (again)... just could not get them started in time. I *did* however find out something useful for next year: one of my neighbors starts her tomatoes in a cold frame outside. Apparently it is warm enough here to do that! I was amazed. But we didn't get our frame built.

Otherwise... things are going well. We have actual blueberries on our bushes, and the blackberry bushes are also forming berries... which has left me scratching my head a bit, as it seems ULTRA early for that! I'm testing two varieties of peas: Wando is still beating its competition. Absolutely my favorite variety of pea. It takes heat a lot better than other varieties. I have chard that overwintered that now has leaves bigger than dinner plates. I've got to replant the radishes, though... I had some help and they got planted way too close together, then grew so fast I couldn't thin them quick enough. So - no radishes.

Next week we'll try to get in our warm weather crops.

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Posted: Jan 16 2013 at 10:58am | IP Logged Quote CrunchyMom

JennGM wrote:
I have so enjoyed the potager thread. I've lost track, though, because I had a few other projects with deadlines that I had to focus. I'm behind on these plans again! The birds and squirrels are back and I already have daffodils blooming in the beginning of February, an obvious sign that my ground is warm.

But I need to order and germinate my seeds. I'd love to discuss favorite seed places. I'd like non-GMO, preferably organic ones.

I have a few already:
Southern Exposure which is not too far from me.

Renee's Garden Seeds

Seed Savers Exchange

My neighbor grows Italian veggies, and recommends Grow Italian, seeds from Italy. Not all are organic, but there is a section.

I'm looking for some French and English varieties. I think Lindsay gave an English source...but perhaps share again?

Any favorites you use over and over again? Recommendations? Not as highly recommended?

Love seed catalogs!



I just wanted to update some of my seed buying experiences from last year.

I did not initially ord anything from Renee's Garden, and I still have not seen a print catalog, but I had really good luck with their seeds! Last year, I ordered late and direct sowed some zinnias and sunflowers and corn from them, and I think I got close to 100% germination, or it seemed so anyway. The plants were glorious.

That isn't to say I didn't have a good experience from other places, too, but I ordered more things from them early on this year

I still ordered from Seed Savers and St. Clare again, too!

This will be my first year ordering from Johnny Scheepers Kitchen Garden Seeds based on your recommendations. They offer so many unique things! Their seeds are pricey, but boy they are hard to resist



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Posted: Jan 16 2013 at 12:23pm | IP Logged Quote JennGM

Okay, Lindsay. Could I pretty please ask you to make a linked list of all the companies we mentioned in this thread? It would be so helpful to me!

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Posted: Jan 16 2013 at 12:25pm | IP Logged Quote CrunchyMom

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Okay, Lindsay. Could I pretty please ask you to make a linked list of all the companies we mentioned in this thread? It would be so helpful to me!


Yes. Maybe I'll make a gardening sticky for this forum with all our gardening talk?

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JennGM wrote:
Okay, Lindsay. Could I pretty please ask you to make a linked list of all the companies we mentioned in this thread? It would be so helpful to me!


Yes. Maybe I'll make a gardening sticky for this forum with all our gardening talk?


Yes, I'd love it. Books and things and links -- pinterest? I need some visual. I'm not handling discussions very well lately. Am I the only one that would find it useful?

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JennGM wrote:
Okay, Lindsay. Could I pretty please ask you to make a linked list of all the companies we mentioned in this thread? It would be so helpful to me!


Yes. Maybe I'll make a gardening sticky for this forum with all our gardening talk?


Yes, I'd love it. Books and things and links -- pinterest? I need some visual. I'm not handling discussions very well lately. Am I the only one that would find it useful?


I'd find it useful, too. Does 4Real keep up with gardening on Pinterest, too? My Farm and Garden board is getting unwieldy. I really wish I had made a "Farm" board and a "Garden" board separately.

This year I'm going to limit my seed buying mainly to Southern Exposure and Baker Creek, since they're the closest to me geographically and carry more "heat and drought tolerant" varieties. After last year's horrible drought, I'm really looking at varieties that won't burn up and dry out!



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Posted: Jan 16 2013 at 4:08pm | IP Logged Quote CrunchyMom

Okay, so I made a Gardening Notes sticky.

I haven't had a chance to do the books or blogs spread throughout our first thread, but I got the seed catalogs and last year's threads linked up.

I will also see about starting a new Pinterest board for Gardening. We could clog up "Loom Larder and Laundry" pretty quick, though if another mod has the time to start it before I get to it, go ahead

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