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Dawn, you and me both. I collected Stephen King books in high school, mostly influenced by my best friend -- same person who influenced me to read Mills and Boon (?) and Silhouette Romances -- ugh, the horror!!! Big mistake. I also read "The Godfather" books and the "Noble House" series -- unfortunately it was my Papa who bought these books and never really monitored my reading. But the one book that was really dangerous to my faith was The Celestine Prophecy. I read it when it first came out and it was at a time in my life when I was a little confused -- thank God I had a very faithful husband by that time and he was able to lead me away from that.
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This might be a surprising entry to the list of worst books read:
Return to Modesty: Discovering the Lost Virtue
In the beginning the author made some very good points. For example, she explained the reason a man would "tip his hat" to a lady. It gave a man a polite way of greeting a woman and helped him to avoid... how did she put it?... avoid ... well "too much looking."
I couldn't finish the book, because she began to explain the immoral things that happen to women on college campuses.
That is not the reason I picked up that book, believe me.
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The worst book I read within the last few years was. . .
Gone With the Wind
I was thinking it would be kind of historical. And while the historical parts were interesting and its very engaging, Scarlet is a HORRID person, and not worth reading about. Its basically a trash novel of the 30's.
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I love Gone with the Wind. LOL But she is horrible, isnt she?
I am adding Fascinating Womanhood to this list bc it makes me want to retch when it talks about not educating girls too much and no college for women.
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Sarah wrote:
The worst book I read within the last few years was. . .
Gone With the Wind
I was thinking it would be kind of historical. And while the historical parts were interesting and its very engaging, Scarlet is a HORRID person, and not worth reading about. Its basically a trash novel of the 30's.
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I personally disagree, as I enjoyed Gone with the Wind. But I read the book first before I saw the movie. Yes, Scarlet is a horrid, sinful woman, but it isn't hidden. I didn't come away loving her...she's not a true heroine. You can plainly see the contrast with virtuos and charitable Melanie.
Scarlet is not a truly historical figure or even typical Southern woman. My biggest objection is that she is an Irish Catholic...rare for the South of that time to be Irish, Catholic, and a plantation owner! The background settings of what the Southern women and other folks had to endure is a good portrayal.
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abcmommy wrote:
I am adding Fascinating Womanhood to this list bc it makes me want to retch when it talks about not educating girls too much and no college for women. |
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Fascination Womanhood is still high on my list, but I don't accept all her premises. I use it as a reminder on how to be "upbuilding" (a phrase our family uses) instead of downbuilding my husband. I don't buy into all the Protestant character of the book, but for a woman who tends to be critical and proud, it has been helpful for me over the years.
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Sarah wrote:
The worst book I read within the last few years was. . .
Gone With the Wind
I was thinking it would be kind of historical. And while the historical parts were interesting and its very engaging, Scarlet is a HORRID person, and not worth reading about. Its basically a trash novel of the 30's.
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The funny thing is -- non-Southerners think Scarlett is so Southern. But, actually it's Melanie who is the true Southern Belle -- she gets what she wants in her quiet, unassuming way. Yet, she always beats Scarlett!
I loved the book when I was younger, but now I find it too "pat".....
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I've just found this thread and read the comments on The Red Tent with interest. I haven't read it, but it's been recommended by lots of people. Even the head of adult education at my old parish highly recommended it. Our Catholic moms book club was looking for suggestions and almost picked it, but the church where we were meeting (not ours b/c one of our group needed childcare and her parish had evening nursery and graciously allowed us to meet there) vetoed that book, along with several others that were not strictly Catholic. My neighbor also has the book and I had meant to borrow it, so I'm glad to read these comments and avoid it.
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Sarah wrote:
The worst book I read within the last few years was. . .
Gone With the Wind
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Not in defense of Scarlett, but in defense of the book, GWTW is a classic. I read it as a teenager after my parents discussed the story with me.
Luckily, I read it before seeing the movie. The movie is terribly disappointing.
I'm also very defensive about the book being read for historical purposes. Personally, I learned a great deal about the Civil War through the book but only because the book made me interested in exploring other books and other rabbit trails. But if someone reads it thinking they'll get a history lesson, they'll be terribly disappointed.
Anyone interested in GWTW, please read the book; DON'T watch the movie. And take notes on dear Melanie and Scarlett's Catholic mother, Ellen. The author did a fabulous job in putting these two "ladies" opposite of Scarlett. Compare and contrast these women and take pity on poor Scarlett.
Mammy did her best to curb the poor girl. Really she did.
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Ugh! I hated GWTW. To me it was just a romance novel that somehow got an inflated reputation. I like the movie because you get to see the dresses.
A really bad read lately was the The Jane Austen Book Club. There were all the obligatory elements for a modern novel: lesbians, rape, divorcing couple, younger man/older woman love affair, working woman with no kids and iffy relationship were her husband, and Miss Austen. Poor Miss Austen would be embarrassed to be in such a book. Fortunately for her (but not for those who love her), she wasn't in there much.
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Cay Gibson wrote:
But if someone reads it thinking they'll get a history lesson, they'll be terribly disappointed.
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And you know. . . that's what I thought before the book, that it was a history lesson. I'm glad you said that.
Also, I somehow assumed that there must be something good about Scarlet because you see Scarlet dolls, flowers named after her, etc. Why?
In my ignorance about her character prior to the book, I expected more of her. That's a lesson about reading a book--not to let expectations guide you.
Great discussion!
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Rachel May wrote:
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Oh, Rachel May, thank you for mentioning this book. I hadn't included my "bad" read because I knew there was a "bad read" I had begun fairly recently and threw it away in discuss. It was so bad I couldn't read past the first chapter. I have never thrown a book away. I am one of those rare worms who can find something good in almost every book I read (yes, even GWTW ).
But this book was AWFUL! Terribly disgusting and disappointing. To think that I paid money for it is simply mortifying.
GWTW is tame stuff compared to JABC.
I was informed that the back section of the book contained some author notes that were gems. Having never torn pages from a book in my life, I tore these pages out for reading later, tossed the book, and promptly forgot about it until your mention.
Have I said how AWFUL it was?!
Sarah wrote:
Also, I somehow assumed that there must be something good about Scarlet...
In my ignorance about her character prior to the book, I expected more of her.
Great discussion!
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Yes, great discussion. I agree.
I must say, though, that Scarlett was terribly creative. Who else would think of putting the soldier's wallet and heriloom earbobs inside a baby's diaper (while in use) and making a dress out of a curtain. Oh, that's right...the author did, not Scarlett.
To me, Scarlett is the typical sterotype of a person who thinks the world revolves around her...literally. She really did want to be a great Southern lady, like her mother. She just didn't know how to go about it. But Melanie did, and she showed Scarlett what greatness was without hardly saying a word.
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Well, my worst read ever is The Exorcist. I can't even bring myself to go to amazon and look up the author. I read it in junior high-are you ready for this? I wanted to see the movie but my mother said I needed to read the book first!! I'm convinced my mother never said "no" to me. But I digress. I still can't think about that book without being scared.
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At least you know how to spell "Scarlett" I couldn't remember. I was thinking "Scarlotte" like Charlotte. . .then my brain overloaded. . .
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The Lord of the Flies by William Golding. |
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Ugh! I had to read this too.
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MicheleQ wrote:
Kathryn UK wrote:
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Ugh! I had to read this too. |
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I was going to say that one too.
And, I know it is supposed to be a classic and all that, but I hated Of Mice and Men.
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And Lissa's blog brought to mind my "worst read" from high school/college (I can't remember which it was):
Billy Budd
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Billy Budd! Definitely .
Actually we need an emoticon that shows someone stupefied by boredom.
I didn't include The Last of the Mohicans on my list because my high school American Lit class went on strike from this book. We all thought it was just so, so dull. Our teacher actually let us stop reading it. Ironically, I enjoyed the movie when I finally watched it on TV.
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JennGM wrote:
abcmommy wrote:
I am adding Fascinating Womanhood to this list bc it makes me want to retch when it talks about not educating girls too much and no college for women. |
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Fascination Womanhood is still high on my list, but I don't accept all her premises. I use it as a reminder on how to be "upbuilding" (a phrase our family uses) instead of downbuilding my husband. I don't buy into all the Protestant character of the book, but for a woman who tends to be critical and proud, it has been helpful for me over the years. |
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The author of Fascinating Womanhood is MOrmon, not Protestant.
__________________ Elizabeth Foss is no longer a member of this forum. Discussions now reflect the current management & are not necessarily expressions of her book, *Real Learning*, her current work, or her philosophy. (posted by E. Foss, Jan 2011)
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