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JennGM wrote:
guitarnan wrote:
No. Even the people who wrote about the penguins that frolic in the Arctic Ocean didn't respond. (Hmmm...maybe they were tracking walruses in the Gulf of Mexico...) |
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That is so funny. Isn't that a point in "Mr. Popper's Penguins" about this misinformation about penguins? |
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You would not believe the number of people that come here to Alaska and ask where they can see some penguins.*sigh*
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lapazfarm wrote:
Speaking of lovely children's science books, I want to put in a plug for the Arabella Buckley books, especially Life and her Children, and all of the books by her in the "Eyes and No Eyes" series. Beautiful books, well written and perfect for read-alouds. I will be using several of these (including Wild Life in Woods and Fields,Birds of the Air, Insect Life, and Plant life in Field and garden) for JBug's nature study this year and I can't wait!
You can get a taste of them by reading full text online at the Baldwin Project here:Arabella Buckley |
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Oh, thanks for the reminder, Theresa! I remember this thread nature study reprints many years ago, that helped me sort out the differences of good nature stories and not-so-good.
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jillian wrote:
Thank you again :) I already feel very welcome here |
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You are so welcome, and thank you for joining in the discussions here .
Our family focuses on nature study in the early years, like others have said, focusing on wonder and experience. We don't do formal science programs and avoid all the controversy, confusion, and adult angst that can go with it. The time comes, soon enough, when the more challenging questions of the theory of evolution and all that entails bubble up. I see no reason to stress over this prematurely because when they are older, well grounded in their faith, and curious about BIG questions, it is a joy to dive into it together.
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(My dd is Science Girl. We have read so many, many books about sharks, dolphins, marine biology, birds, dogs...she can find errors in library books, she knows so much! I have her write letters to the publishers...)
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Nancy, maybe your dd will write the curriculum you describe! I bet she could find all sorts of support from several science moms here (I won't mention any specific names as not to put you all on the spot .)
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Can I boast and admit I have a tiny little original of Wild Life in Woods and Fields.
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Erin wrote:
Can I boast and admit I have a tiny little original of Wild Life in Woods and Fields. |
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Boast away! I know you have marvellous treasures on those library shelves. And now that you have been able to revisit your "friends" and remind yourself what you have, even better!
I'm as envious as I'm allowed to be without sinning.
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Erin wrote:
Can I boast and admit I have a tiny little original of Wild Life in Woods and Fields. |
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Neat!!!
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These ladies have given some wonderful advise. But I don't like using books I have to give explanations about why they are wrong. Our family really likes Noeo Science - which currently has levels up to 9th grade. - which you have some time till. Another suggestion is don't look to far into the future - there may be newer and better things coming before you get there!
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We are trying to do more "living books" accurate information through stories for dd now but I definitely need something to guide me lol. DD has her favorites that we learn all about but she'd bee content to get the SAME books over and over and over again but I want to introduce her to some more things and I don't know where to begin for experiments at all
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Loads of ideas, it can overwhelming.
Janice Van Cleave has excellent resources. Here's her website. She has a new series for younger ones.
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You know, I am always impressed with the selection of picture books and videos in the public library's natural science children's section. And, since they're already arranged by topic, it pretty much lines things up right there! Even if your daughter wants to read only one of those books or look at one of those videos over.and.over.and.over. That's not a problem at 2 1/2 - actually it's age appropriate. I think I would lean toward nature topics- trees, plants, wildflowers, animals, birds - that she can see also in real life. Taking nature walks, or going to the zoo, or planting some seeds are great *lab* activities for someone her age. And I always find that when I do things like that after having read even a children's book about it, I see so much more and make so many more connections than I had before. (This won't be boring for you, either, is what I'm trying to say. ).
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lapazfarm wrote:
Speaking of lovely children's science books, I want to put in a plug for the Arabella Buckley books, especially Life and her Children, and all of the books by her in the "Eyes and No Eyes" series. Beautiful books, well written and perfect for read-alouds. I will be using several of these (including Wild Life in Woods and Fields,Birds of the Air, Insect Life, and Plant life in Field and garden) for JBug's nature study this year and I can't wait!
You can get a taste of them by reading full text online at the Baldwin Project here:Arabella Buckley |
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LOVE the Arabella Buckley series!!! Makes for great read alouds...a little at a time...add in nature walks...and you have science for a couple of elementary years!
And, if we're boasting... ...I'll let you know that I have an original copy of Eyes and No Eyes (this contains all 6 books by Arabella Buckley in one book!) that I found...intact...with original color plates! Simply wonderful book!
Theresa,
You and JBug will have such a wonderful time with Mrs. Fisher's (Arabella Buckley's) work!! What a delight to read these!
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jillian wrote:
We are trying to do more "living books" accurate information through stories for dd now but I definitely need something to guide me lol. DD has her favorites that we learn all about but she'd bee content to get the SAME books over and over and over again but I want to introduce her to some more things and I don't know where to begin for experiments at all |
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You've found the right place both for guidance AND reassurance, jillian! Science in early elementary is a time of wonder; there are so many treasures to uncover and explore!
Give yourself permission to relax into this time of wonder. Question, investigate...and then read together. When you uncover a topic she enjoys - bees, butterflies, carrots, insect wings, the moon - find some great reading lists in the archives here or ask us and we'll definitely recommend away! Read together. Question again. It's fine not to have all the answers - just keep reading and looking for the answers together.
I sure hope we've let you know that we're not perfect, but we sure do love sharing ideas...and wondering aloud with our kids! Welcome to the club!
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It's also great fun to color printouts of some of the animals and plants you discover together. (This can get out of hand, but in a good way...my dd spent the better part of a school year coloring zillions of bird printouts from 50birds.com and Enchanted Learning. We put them all on a small corkboard so she could look at them. She's a whiz at birdwatching now. )
On the plant side of things, growing seeds is lots of fun.
As your dd gets older you can also have her make 3D animals from clay or play-dough.
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Most of us have encountered the problems--some secular material is Secularist, purposely putting material that is indirectly, or even directly, demeaning to our Faith. Faith-based material are even worse, IMHO, because Protestants present incorrect theology or can also be demeaning to Catholic theology.
I was lulled into the great science of Apologia and thought I could deal with theological issues. In the end I spent too much time having to talk about where Protestants go wrong (important message but not something I want to become a frequent theme in all our studies.) I also found them to be much to textbook-y for my taste.
I used NOEO, too, and I realized I could do the same thing with the many wonderful books from my bookshelf rather than their suggestions. Besides, I found their primary grade Galileo book inappropriate and anti-Catholic.
Actually, Evolution is not the main science-religion discussion to date in our family but rather Transubstantiation. Like most of our children, being homeschooled, they have a very clear understanding of the Eucharist. I have explained that we have a natural world and a supernatural world. Transubstantiation, the angels at Mass, our souls and much more cannot be studied, tested, verified, explained by science because science by definition is limited to the physical world; we rely on revelation for what is happening in the supernatural world.
I use this to explain the atheism of many scientists. They limit themselves to the natural world because that is all they are capable of studying, and this is a mistake. My kids really "get" this, and I pray this understanding prepares them for the challenges they will meet especially if they decide to pursue a scientific career.
My experience has been that more of the Protestant material is anti-Catholic than the secular material, though as my kids enter middle school and I look ahead to high school I find the secular indoctrination gets turned way up. I pray for more Catholic high school material like Faith, Science, and Reason and the new Catholic biology book and online course due out in August.
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I have not used these materials, nor am I familiar with the people who created the material (hmmm, sometimes even "Catholic" material needs to be vetted, eh?)...
Creation Lens has science material for K through 4. Interestingly you can choose the Catholic or Christian version, though it is produced by Catholics. It's not meant to be a complete program but you may find some interesting hands-on ideas and a tie-in between faith and science.
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Thank you so much. She is very smart, picks up so much material that I don't want to dumb down what we are teaching (she understands so so so much and amazes me with what she understands) but I don't want to push her either. I am going to be designing a "preschool" curricula over the next month or so to help guide ME; not giving her goals but just so I have an idea. I will definitely using many of the sources y'all have given me :)
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I did use two of the Apologia elementary science books but I think they were just too much too soon for our family.
I like Janice VanCleave's Science books and she has lots of them! I also like Kathryn Stout's Design a Study science book.
I do like Apologia for high school though because it is very thorough.
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Back to the penguin thing for a minute...your Friday comic relief...
On page 252 of Martha Stewart's Cupcakes, there's a photo of a cupcake with two adorable penguins on top, next to a sign reading...
North Pole.
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guitarnan wrote:
Back to the penguin thing for a minute...your Friday comic relief...
On page 252 of Martha Stewart's Cupcakes, there's a photo of a cupcake with two adorable penguins on top, next to a sign reading...
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But I'll bet they are REALLY CUTE penguiins
__________________ Lindsay
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guitarnan wrote:
Back to the penguin thing for a minute...your Friday comic relief...
On page 252 of Martha Stewart's Cupcakes, there's a photo of a cupcake with two adorable penguins on top, next to a sign reading...
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Argh!!!!!
That just happens to be one of those pets peeves of mine. The other one--you know that animated movie Barnyard where all of the cattle have prominent udders--even the MALES? I just.cannot.handle.it.
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