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I love my commonplace book! It's a treasure! I'm not good at journaling (isn't that weird?), but I love copying favorite quotes and illustrating!
Angela wrote:
What I have always wanted my kids to do as they get older is to keep a commonplace book, in which they copy out passages (on their own!) from their reading that have particular meaning for them, or seem important to their studies. But my oldest has just become not allergic to holding a pencil in about the last year. My hopeful nudges and suggestions have to this point fallen on deaf ears.
Is there a giant difference between a commonplace book and required copywork? Any of you with older kids do both, or just one or the other? |
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I don't yet have a child who is interested in creating a commonplace book, but I haven't asked lately either.
In general, my own thoughts would be that if I had a child willing to write in their own commonplace book regularly, I would not require copywork as well.
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lapazfarm wrote:
I have started back into copywork for my younger kids again after dropping it for awhile. My dd responds to it particularly well.
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This has been my experience too, my girls are far keener, in fact my dd8 tells me it's her favourite subject and my dd16 did it for years past her need too. The boys do do it but I couldn't say they are keen.
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Well, I made a decision today. I decided to make copywork books for my 13 yo and 11 yo. I used that file from the House of Education yahoo group I mentioned earlier, which contains quotations from many of the books my ds has read or will read, but since it was a sharable file, I was able to save it and get rid of the selections I didn't want. I'll add some of the poetry from The Harp and the Laurel Wreath, as well as religious selections (I am thinking that the Rule of St. Benedict would work nicely with our history.) I will probably include these Celtic notebooking pages for my ds to do the actual copying. I'll probably put it all in a binder, along with introductory directions for reference. I hope to use some of the selections for dictation as well.
I think that with all the changes we'll be facing in the next several months -- a new baby, moving -- I really need as much to be prepared ahead of time as I can. Putting all the selections into book form *should* allow my older kids to just "do the next thing" without having to rely on me.
I really want to make this copywork book part of a larger language arts program, so I may just make it part of a larger binder, which will also include articles, essays, and excerpts to outline and then rewrite (ala IEW, I guess, except I really don't like the way their materials are written). I'll be trying to follow Susan Wise Bauer's suggestions for teaching writing (the elementary years and middle years).
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That sounds really great, Angela. 
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I'm fascinated Angela. I'd love to know more if you have the time to share.
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Erin wrote:
| I'm fascinated Angela. I'd love to know more if you have the time to share. |
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Me, too, Angela, on the writing stuff. I've been intrigued ever since I read your discussion on this area.
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i'm coming in late to this discussion. We have gotten out of the habit of copywork but have started it up again recently. I was perusing the Bravewriter website on the weekend and I was struck by how she does copywork. I am going to try this with my oldest. My younger two will just do daily copywork from their read alouds.
Anyway, Julie (at Bravewriter) suggests choosing a selection from your read aloud that has a particular literary element. Mon is for copywork of this section, Tues is dictation, Wed is for any grammar or punctuation element that is present in the selection and the literary element will be discussed on the Thurs.
I really like the sound of this rhythm. It is similar to how Ruth Beechick suggests to do copywork. I was going to start this for today but everyone's sick so, alas, it will have to wait. 
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JuliaT wrote:
| I was going to start this for today but everyone's sick so, alas, it will have to wait. |
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How inconsiderate!  
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Erin wrote:
JuliaT wrote:
| I was going to start this for today but everyone's sick so, alas, it will have to wait. |
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How inconsiderate! |
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I thought so, too, Erin!  I had been looking forward to doing this all weekend then was a bit disappointed when everyone woke up with coughs and fever.
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Found these while searching around tonight:
Happy Scribe Copybooks
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JennGM wrote:
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| I'm fascinated Angela. I'd love to know more if you have the time to share. |
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Me, too, Angela, on the writing stuff. I've been intrigued ever since I read your discussion on this area. |
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I'm so late in getting back to this! I am going to try and start a new thread discussing Susan Wise Bauer's ideas about writing, hopefully later today. But I have to take at least one sick kid to the doctor (horrible cough), so... we'll see...
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I'm getting in on this late. Gosh, I've been gone awhile. Anywho, I want to explain why I only do copywork one week or even one day ahead of time. Things come up. For instance, older ds was watching something about Getteysburg the other day, was interested, so I had him do Getteysburg Address for copywork. Or, younger ds is not shaking some bad habit, so perhaps a little pointed quotation choices might work. (Vince Lombardi has some really good ones.) Or we might just happen to be studying something specific for religion, and a really good quote will come up. For older son, it is just a matter of telling him what to copy down. For younger, I need to write it out for him to copy in cursive, but again, time involved is 5 minutes. Something always comes to mind that is needed and appropriate for the next day.
Just a thought here for us fly-by-the-seat-of-our-pants types.
Last week, we had confirmation at our parish, and some boys younger ds admires were confirmed. Younger ds asked about exactly what confirmation is, and I explained. Then for copywork, he did the hymn "You Are Mine." Perfect.
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These Happy Scribe Copybooks are all on sale right now for $.75. I like these A LOT! I just ordered an Ancient Egypt one to go along with our History reading in the fall.
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Each copybook has twenty sayings, presented in three different common handwriting fonts: Classic Block Printing, D'Nealian Italic and Cursive. We have based these exercises on twenty day blocks, representing four weeks of five days, for one month of exercises. There are basic alphabets and number pages for extra drill pages as well as a blank page to print for your own exercises, if you so please.
Each saying is printed once in a dark solid typeface for reference. The second example is using a dashed font to be traced over. Then there is a blank line for the student scribe to try reproducing the saying. After that, there is a light grayed saying to make sure they are on track. It's a proven fact, that when presented with several blank lines to practice on, student's work tends to degrade quickly. However, when there is another faint reminder quote line, they will see much more consistent results in the quality of their handwriting. |
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