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It looks like a helpful tool, but I don't care for the cartoonish visuals. If I'm going to compromise on a Protestant program, I want good visuals. Veritas Press has great visuals in their Bible study materials.
What we need for an adult reference is a handy, no fuss wall chart. Do you suppose Scott Hahn or one of the great Catholic Bible scholars has one? Sigh.
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Bridget wrote:
It looks like a helpful tool, but I don't care for the cartoonish visuals. If I'm going to compromise on a Protestant program, I want good visuals. Veritas Press has great visuals in their Bible study materials.
What we need for an adult reference is a handy, no fuss wall chart. Do you suppose Scott Hahn or one of the great Catholic Bible scholars has one? Sigh. |
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Yeah, the one thing I don't care for with the BSG is the cartoonish pictures.
Veritas Press? Not familiar with that. Do you have a link?
A wall chart! That would be brilliant. I wonder if such a thing exists?
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Veritas Press? Not familiar with that. Do you have a link?
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I don't know that I would buy the whole Bible curriculum without seeing it but I am looking at the flash cards and the Memory songs CDs as supplements.
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I'm so excited about this! My oldest will only be 5 in May, but would love to have a plan for a bible study we can use as a family and grow with over the years!
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The charts for the adult Bible studies (Scott Hahn, etc) are all on two sides - I think they would be great on ONE side - but then one could always purchase two of them and hang them side by side.
The teen version is the same...
But the KIDS one is on one side and I love it!
I agree about the cartoon stuff - these were real people and real events and when they get placed in the mind of a child in the same manner as something like Mickey Mouse - well, I know most people work out the difference, but why should we have to work it out? Salvation History is beautiful (if difficult to understand or accept at times) - so let's present it that way!
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CatholicMommy wrote:
The charts for the adult Bible studies (Scott Hahn, etc) are all on two sides - I think they would be great on ONE side - but then one could always purchase two of them and hang them side by side.
The teen version is the same...
But the KIDS one is on one side and I love it!
I agree about the cartoon stuff - these were real people and real events and when they get placed in the mind of a child in the same manner as something like Mickey Mouse - well, I know most people work out the difference, but why should we have to work it out? Salvation History is beautiful (if difficult to understand or accept at times) - so let's present it that way!
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Link, please??? I am totally excited about the option of a poster, and if I have to buy two to post both sides, I'm willing to do that just to not have to read an extra book and try to find the right sections each morning! 
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I don't know that I would buy the whole Bible curriculum without seeing it but I am looking at the flash cards and the Memory songs CDs as supplements. |
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The flash cards look beautiful. Is this a protestant curriculum? I'm hesitant to buy protestant memory music. I'm thinking the 10 commandments won't be listed right in song and the list of bible books will be missing books, kwim?
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CatholicMommy wrote:
I agree about the cartoon stuff - these were real people and real events and when they get placed in the mind of a child in the same manner as something like Mickey Mouse - well, I know most people work out the difference, but why should we have to work it out? Salvation History is beautiful (if difficult to understand or accept at times) - so let's present it that way!
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I'm actually thinking that even if several of us decide to use slightly different materials, we can still work this out and help each other. I haven't decided yet about the pictures. While they aren't my favorite, I am still drawn to this particular system of learning. Bridget mentioned she favors a classical study. In thinking about it all, I really think what draws me to the other is that its more of a unit study. I've never been very successful with the Classical method. But I sure do like the look of the Veritas flash cards, and maybe that beauty can counteract the cartoonish figures in the other program. Nothing is going to work perfectly because there is nothing created by Catholics yet, but I am really starting to feel like we can make this work with other products available, a little here and there, whatever works best for our families.
Which reminds me, isn't there a Cavins Salvation History program (RC history is coming to my cobwebby mind here). Does anyone know if that would be helpful here or if its geared to much older students???
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Here is a multi-post response 
For both timeline sources and the Bible study programs:
Ascension Press Bible Studies (ie Scott Hahn and Jeff Cavins)
The caveat on the above is the PRICE (the timelines (at $4.95 each) are reasonable for what you get - order more than 10 and it's a 15% discount - ie if you have a homeschool group). The studies are GREAT. I have all of them at my parish office (and the Kids one at home (see posted review on this one)).
EDITING: The Teen timeline is not available separate from the student book; the ADULT Timeline is available (and is functional for adults or teens as well as children with guidance) as well as the KIDS one for $4.95 each.
I am in contact with them right now about using their Adult and Teen Timelines (along with other sources) to pull together a guide-book for use with younger children. They have a LOT I would like to incorporate, but if the copyright restrictions are too much to deal with, I still have a really good framework for a guidebook.
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I was going to throw in a few links
Understanding the Scriptures, part of the Didache Series. This is so excellent. This is for high school, it could be to inform the parent. Having taking Bible Study in college from Dr. Hahn, this book follows right along. Excellent.
I was also going to post the Emmaus Road Publishers but now I see it's the Come and See series that Bridget originally asked about. I do think CUF/Emmaus aims to combine the Protestant methods into a solidly Catholic program.
There are older and newer books that have maps of the Bible. I have an older book by St. Anthony Guild Press "Maps of the Land of Christ" which is really delightful.
I'm enjoying this discussion, and looking forward to your "end" decisions.
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Your right. CHC has a lovely CD, Sing Bible Prayer Songs that has all the books of the Bible. It's wonderful for the younger children.
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Could be a while. There are so many possibilities!
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Was just coming to link that one. very fun and effective!
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Here we go! Here is a cheat sheet! Catholic Verse Finder Wouldn't this work well for mom with a non-Catholic children's Bible study?!
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http://www.stgeorgebooks.com/product.cfm/product/2542/Great- Adventure-Kids-Pack/
Does anyone know if this is any good and what ages it is intended for?
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This is the Kids Timeline noted above. Here is the post where I offered a review of it:
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I have been appreciating all your thoughts, links on this topic. I keep on coming back to the thought that we should not get in the way of living books, and of all the living books, the Bible is certainly the most living. So, with these thoughts, here is what we will do:
On MWF:
1. Open with prayer. An invocation to the Holy Spirit.
2. Take a few minutes to work on Baltimore Cat. questions a la MODG.
3. Read through the Bible in chronological order beginning with the OT and skipping up to the NT during Advent, the first part of Ordinary Time, and Lent/Easter.
4. Have children narrate back, taking turns so one child narrates one day, another the next, and so on.
5. Supplement stories with art perhaps from this site or our art books.
6. Place a drawing or picture in our Book of Centuries.
7. When encountering geographical information of significance (not every little town and rivulet!), note on map. I'll print out outline maps of the region from Uncle Josh's Outline Maps for each child so they can work at their own level.
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We will focus on the virtues using the PACE Curriculum with the younger ones. Older students will read the corresponding chapters in Understanding the Scriptures.
Lives of saints will be part of our usual family liturgical year activities.
There is SO MUCH information out there that I believe it is necessary to determine what exactly you want to teach. You can't possibly teach it all! As a convert, I want to communicate EVERYTHING I learned to the children, which is ridiculous! I'm an avid reader, college educated, and I have been accumulating knowledge over the course of a lifetime. How can I possibly cover all that information with my children? They must have their own walk of faith and, hopefully, a lifetime of learning as well. I want to provide the foundation that learning can rest upon. I decided I want my children to have a living relationship with the Word of God, I don't want overkill of workbooks, etc., so it becomes just another subject. A strong foundation which focuses on the events and people of the Bible will enable them later to understand typology, the writings of the Fathers, and apologetics in their later high school years and adult life.
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Thank you, CatholicMommy. I saw the word "Timeline" in the subject and didn't realize it was the same thing I saw today.
Caroline, I've been thinking about all the discussion here, too. I still haven't made up my mind yet. My Memoria Press catalogue came the other day and I have been meaning to take a second look at the bible workbooks...
I totally agree that we need to narrow it down and focus on what our family needs the most to hear/learn. I've decided I want to focus on the New Testament this year, and refer back to the OT as it foreshadows/relates, but not do a systematic study of the OT this coming year. I want to focus on scripture memorization. We may notebook...or not. Not sure yet. We are passing on artwork and saint study for this year, too. We are going to do virtue study, too, probably PACE. In order to make room for this, I'm ditching formal study of science and history for those 4th grade on down. I'm imagining read alouds that will include history or science, but don't have a clue where I'll begin for that, yet. I am still brooding on it all. I'll also make sure that those that do reading on their own are reading about history and science, too.
That's about as far as I've gotten so far...
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Books, doesn't it feel good to get it narrowed down some? I remember a college psychology professor who in responding to the suggestion to use a four-ink colored pen replied, "Option leads to neurosis!" How true! Twenty years ago, homeschooling was easy in one way because there were hardly any materials available. In another way, what a blessing to have such great choices. Now, to enjoy that blessing without getting completely overwhelm, and/or broke  , is the trick! Some years I succeed, some years I don't !
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My absolute favorite, all time, Bible History study is an old Benziger Bro publication from 1936 called Bible History by Right Rev Richard Gilmour, D.D. Don't know if it is in print or not, but if you can nab it used, it would go really well as a read along with the timelines mentioned above. It gives a really good intro to the more in depth connections.
For the Scott Hahn Bible study that is referred to above - you might check to see if your parish has it. Our DRE purchased it and I know people have made arrangements to use it.
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