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Sarah M
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Posted: Jan 30 2008 at 1:55pm \| IP Logged

My first loved bottles and hated nursing

, my second loved nursing and hated bottles

, my third.....loved both!

What we did differently was offer breastmilk in Avent bottles starting when he was 2 weeks old. My dh would feed him one bottle a week. Then we gradually increased to 2-3 bottles a week, usually in the middle of the night so I could get a blessed 5-6 hours of sleep at once.

We didn't have any nipple confusion with him.

A lot of it, I fear, has to do with the personality of that sweet little opinionated baby.

Praying for you!

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Posted: Jan 30 2008 at 2:27pm \| IP Logged

mary theresa wrote:

However, I was wondering, has anyone heard something about breast milk in glass being bad because the white blood cells? or something with the immunities in it? "leaves" the milk and adheres to the glass??

Not like the baby would be having a bottle often at all . . . so maybe it wouldn't matter if the antibodies weren't there for once?

Research is inconclusive. There was a study that found that more leukocytes (white blood cells) adhered to glass than plastic. Other studies since have found that different types of leukocytes react differently to glass and that storage time affects adherence as well (many of the leukocytes that are adhered were released over time and after 24 hours had more than that stored in plastic). Another thing is whether the milk is stored fresh or frozen. If it's frozen it doesn't matter if more leukocytes adhere to the glass, freezing kills most of them anyway.

The bottom line, Mary Theresa is what you mentioned, if it is infrequent it really doesn't matter much if there are less leukocytes in that bottle of milk. If a baby gets most of his/her nourishment directly from breastfeeding and receives expressed milk only occasionally, whether or not some leukocytes adhere wouldn't be a major consideration.

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Posted: Jan 30 2008 at 3:58pm \| IP Logged

My two oldest were exclusively breastfed. My two younger ones both were in a routine where I would pump at various times during the day, and they would have a bottle of that milk around 9 or 10 at night -- I had read something intimating that my own milk supply would be at its lowest then, after a long day, and that the "boost" at that time would help them to stretch out at night, which it certainly did. I started the bottles very early with both of them -- my youngest daughter had been in the newborn ICU for a week before coming home, and I had been pumping and also going in to nurse her for hours every day, but she was still well acclimated to bottles from her second day of life on.

It worked well and did enable other family members to feed the baby on occasion, which was very helpful. I will say that both these children self-weaned much earlier -- before a year -- whereas my other two were longer-term nursers. The youngers nursed AND bottle-fed happily until 6 or 7 months, and then wanted no more of nursing, despite my efforts. So while it was nice that they wouldn't reject the bottles, as my oldest had done vehemently, and they were GREAT sleepers, which was a lifesaver in many ways, the convenience did come at a bit of a cost in the end. I wasn't as upset as I would have been if they had been tinier, but it was hard to have them wean so early, when I knew that they'd benefit from longer breastfeeding. Not sure I'd do it that way again . . . but it did have its advantages, too (and they are fine today, so I have no serious regrets on their behalf!).

Not trying to advise you either way, but that was our experience, both advantages and disadvantages.

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Sally

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Posted: Feb 08 2008 at 2:47pm \| IP Logged

Hi Everyone!

Well, the little bundle I was expecting when I started this thread back in June is 6 months old today! I never did get her to take a bottle for me, and she is doing the nursing/napping thing while I type this! Just wanted to say "hello" and wish the rest of you well with trying this out!

Blessings,

Tea

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