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Posted: Jan 08 2008 at 10:12am | IP Logged Quote MarilynW

We need to start eating fish - I have one child with severe fish allergy so we have avoided it for years. But reading all the Omega 3 stuff - I need to have everyone else eat it. But with all the mercury scares, I am not sure which fish to buy, from where - or how to cook it so kids will eat it.

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Posted: Jan 08 2008 at 12:01pm | IP Logged Quote Michaela

I'll be watching this thread. I was just coming to ask about everyone's favorite "fish dish".

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Posted: Jan 08 2008 at 12:13pm | IP Logged Quote Rachel May

In this Moosewood there is a very good fish and herb recipe. When we have salmon, I bake it with salt, pepper and a little butter for about 30 min at 350. All the kids eat both recipes, and some even ask for seconds and leftovers.

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Posted: Jan 08 2008 at 12:27pm | IP Logged Quote KellyJ

Wild caught is better than farm-raised. Salmon has a higher Omega-3 level than many other fish. Tuna is also an Omega-3 source. It's been a while since I've looked at all that information.

I prefer salmon salted and peppered, then grilled. I like it many other ways too though.

If you're dealing with a severe fish allergy in the family, you might want to look into fish oil caplets or other fish sources such as walnuts, flax seeds/flax seed oil, eggs that are rich in Omega-3s, etc.

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Posted: Jan 08 2008 at 12:30pm | IP Logged Quote marihalojen

If you are concerned about Mercury eat smaller, lower in the food chain sort of fish. So the big predator pelagic fish (swordfish, tuna, shark) will have higher levels of Mercury than the littler lower in the food chain fish (ocean perch, whiting, flounder).

Lots of info is available online, I just found   Got Mercury? which has a nice little calculator to help you keep track of possible levels you've consumed this week based on your weight.

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Posted: Jan 08 2008 at 4:24pm | IP Logged Quote lapazfarm

My kids are absolutely crazy about this:
Take a filet of WILD ALASKAN SALMON (I prefer King, but red or silver are good, too).
Put it in a baking dish (spray dish with Pam first).
Pour over it half a bottle of Annies Naturals Shiitake and Sesame Vinaigrette salad dressing.
Bake at 400 until done, about 15 mins, depending on the thickness of your filet. When it flakes with a fork it is done.
Serve with rice and some veggies.
Couldn't be easier and my kids say it is their all-time favorite meal.

We eat salmon probably once a week, so I am always on the lookout for more recipes.

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Posted: Jan 08 2008 at 4:28pm | IP Logged Quote lapazfarm

This friday we are having halibut hoagies with slaw.

Take a thick halibut filet and cut it crossways into plank-shaped pieces.
Dip in your favorite tempura or beer batter and fry or roll in egg and breadcrumbs/potato flakes and fry until white through (no longer translucent).
Put on a hoagie roll and top with home-made or prepared cole slaw. Serve with french fries and sliced tomatoes.
Yum!

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Posted: Jan 08 2008 at 4:32pm | IP Logged Quote lapazfarm

We all love tilapia filets, dipped in egg and Italian seasoned bread crumbs and lightly pan fried.They cook very quickly-less than 10 mins.
Serve with black beans and rice and fried plantains.

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Posted: Jan 08 2008 at 7:47pm | IP Logged Quote KackyK

This thread is of great interest to me as I have tried to figure out fish...but I'm not having much luck. My dh grew up with fish frys on Fridays and fish sometimes elsewhere in the week. My mom to this day doesn't eat any seafood and never did she ever fix us any. I have no experience.

I think I can handle following recipes. But how do you buy it and what is a good price? I am assuming it's better fresh at the grocery store than frozen filets from Costco (or the like)? And fish has always seemed so expensive to me when compared to cheapo chicken legs (which I know we can't compare nutritionally). But budget-wise, how does it not bust it??? And I don't know if anyone is this good at prices, but what would be a good salmon price, or halibut price for instance? To me I see $7 per lb on something and say yikes and then I'll hear someone say that was a good deal...I don't know how to judge (I'm using the $7 as an example).

Oh and one more question...see, I'm totally illiterate on this how much would a lb serve? For instance, 1-1 1/2 lbs of ground beef in a meatloaf is good for us...but what should the filets weigh to fill up someone...did that make sense???

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Posted: Jan 08 2008 at 7:53pm | IP Logged Quote MarilynW

Theresa and Rachel

Thanks for the wonderful recipes!

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Posted: Jan 08 2008 at 7:56pm | IP Logged Quote MarilynW

KackyK wrote:

But how do you buy it and what is a good price? I am assuming it's better fresh at the grocery store than frozen filets from Costco (or the like)? And fish has always seemed so expensive to me ???


I have the same questions as Kacky - where do you buy good fish? Is frozen as good as fresh? Is canned salmon, tuna, sardines etc healthy? Trader Joe's has a large selection of frozen fish.

I have the price concerns too - I would have to be really stingy in the portions to afford it.

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Posted: Jan 08 2008 at 7:58pm | IP Logged Quote KackyK

Oh and I forgot a comment about a tuna...a friend of mine just told me her daughter had mercury poisoning because she ate canned tuna 4 or more times per week! My dd would do the same, but we limit her to only 1X per week...so tuna makes me nervous!

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Posted: Jan 08 2008 at 8:56pm | IP Logged Quote missionfamily

I cook tilapia filets that we get from a nearby organic farm 2-3 times a week. I bake the filets and then flake them up like tuna, then mix in vegenase (mayo substitute), red onion, craisins, and walnuts to make salad. We use this throughout the week on sandwiches and salad. I also pan fry filets in olive oil and then out them over salad or pasta with veggies, Lastly, I like to wrap the filets around a ball of cornbread stuffing and bake them in the oven. We are fortunate to be able to get this farm-fresh fish and not have to worry about it because fish is an important part of our diet since dh has had a heart attack. We also try to eat salmon and tuna steaks at least once a month and sushi rolls!

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Posted: Jan 08 2008 at 9:04pm | IP Logged Quote Mackfam

I used the Oceans Alive site to get a lot of helpful info for what is safe to buy, etc. In particular, here's a best and worst guide. Just looking around their site was helpful for me.

We ended up deciding that farm raised (local is best, but avoid Chinese farm raised!!!) Tilapia was our favorite fish of choice. It's quite mild and lends itself to almost any fish recipe very nicely. Of course, salmon is the healthiest, but I just can't get my family to embrace the strong taste.    We want to like it, we just don't. I do buy the breaded Tilapia fillets from Costco to have in the freezer for emergency dinners. They're tasty, and fairly inexpensive.

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Posted: Jan 08 2008 at 11:16pm | IP Logged Quote lapazfarm

To be honest, I have no idea how much salmon or halibut costs in the stores, as my sons and dh caught all of ours themselves. I understand it can be quite expensive, though. I think it could be thought of more like steak than chicken, price wise and serving size wise.
Lets see...we had our salmon dressed in 1.5 lb fillets. I usually cook 2 fillets to feed the family (7 of us) and it is more than enough. I end up with a serving or so left over for lunch.

The mildest flavored salmon is what is called a White King Salmon. It is a fairly rare genetic variation in which the typical pink pigment is not metabolized in the fish's flesh, leaving it a lovely white color and mild flavor. Superboy was fortunate enough to catch some this summer and we are really enjoying it. It has become the family favorite.
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Posted: Jan 09 2008 at 6:36am | IP Logged Quote Mary Chris

I think the Trader Joe's uses the flash freezing method for their fish. TJ's also has fresh forzen wild salmon. I have heard good things about the fish from Trader Joe's.   I found some in my freezer yesterday that I have to use . I am not good with using frozen food, especailly fish. I think it stems from our early days of marriage when I tried marinating frozen fish in it's wrapper.... whatever I did, it was yuck!

We eat a lot of salmon. In our old house I would buy at Whole Foods, now I buy at Wegman's or Costco. Sometimes you can find wild salmon at Costco. Salmon is pretty much the only fish we eat, since we left Hawaii 13 years ago. There we could buy ahi (tuna) and mahi mahi right off the boat. I am trying to add more variety of fish into our diet. Last week I made some yummy mahi mahi tacos.

We usually pour some olive oil and lemon juice over the salmon and stick it under the broiler. If you ever get the chance to order at a restaurant or want to try it yourself, cedar plank salmon is really good, but involves work, so it is best for special occasions.
When are kids were little and we were having salmon, we would roll thier pieces in breadcrumbs, bake them and tell the kids they were fish sticks. Finally, they realizied we were all eating the same thing and we stopped with the fish sticks.



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Salmon might be one of those rare instances where canned is better than fresh. Usually, canned salmon is wild salmon. And often fresh salmon in the grocery store is farm raised salmon. Farm raised salmon feeds differently than wild salmon. As a result, it's often not very high in Omega 3s at all.Of course, if your fresh salmon is Theresa's, you're golden . More Alaska envy.

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MarilynW wrote:
Is frozen as good as fresh? Is canned salmon, tuna, sardines etc healthy?I have the price concerns too - I would have to be really stingy in the portions to afford it.


We prefer salmon, mahi mahi, and swordfish here to the more flaky fish (like cod, tilapia, etc.). They are much "meatier" and, to me, don't taste nearly as "fishy."

While fresh is GREAT, we normally wind up w/frozen from Sam's Club, and it's still quite good. I go with the simplest of recipes...just salt, pepper, and plop them on the indoor grill and all the kids LOVE it. Sometimes DH will buy some that's packaged in a marinade. Of course, this is usually a 1-2x per month meal...not weekly.

The thing is, because they are such dense fish, you can get away with a "stingy" portion. The small fillets that we get in the frozen packages (usually about a 3x6" piece) get split by each child, my husband gets a whole piece, and I usually can't finish a whole piece....so, that's usually 5 fillets for us (8). Considering a bag or box from Sam's can cost anywhere from $10-$16 and can have anywhere from 6-10 pieces, I can sometimes get 2 meals out of that purchase...not a bad deal.

Canned salmon definitely has health benefits, especially if you use the kind that has the bones and skin still in it. That makes it much higher in calcium. I use canned salmon a LOT during Lent for salmon patties. NOT a favorite, I assure you, but it is healthy and good for Fridays. I don't use it for anything else, though.

I love canned tuna for tuna salad sandwiches, but I only have one child who actually likes tuna!

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Posted: Jan 09 2008 at 7:33am | IP Logged Quote Lisbet

In the way of canned tuna, use tongol (sp?) tuna, for reasons I can't recall off the top of my head, I read years ago that it is lower in mercury than other tunas.

We like tilapia too. I mix a bit of mayo, parmesan cheese, butter, and lemon juice, spread it over filets and bake for about 10 minutes, then broil for about 2 minutes, everyone loves this, even my FIL, who has never liked fish eats this like it's going out of style. (although my husband says I could serve his dad p--p on a platter and he'd rave about what a great cook I am, my father in law is too kind! LOL!)


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Posted: Jan 09 2008 at 8:10am | IP Logged Quote Cay Gibson

lapazfarm wrote:
We all love tilapia filets, dipped in egg and Italian seasoned bread crumbs and lightly pan fried.


You just planned supper for me, Theresa. Thank you.

We so need to eat more fish around here but no one is crazy about it. Kayleigh and I talked about it the other day. She cooks supper at least twice a week now. I have some tilapia filets in the freezer and mentioned her finding a recipe and doing something with them. She said she didn't like fish.

We have a big fish fry every Easter and Thanksgiving on our camping trip. For Kayleigh and her cousin we have to throw some chicken filets into the pot because they won't eat the fish. Perhaps they'll grow into it one day.

For my first pregnancy I remember having a craving for McDonald's fish burgers.

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